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Ok i hope i can explain this well, i do understand rider movements have been discussed but i wanted to maybe bring this opinion to light about rider movements. Hopefully i can explain it properly and take from it what you will

In most previous MX titles the riders movements forward & backward on the bike have usually been pretty standard looking and worked as they should i guess. But the one thing that has always stuck in my mind is how much the game would benefit from more realistic reactive movements, to help give that feel of it being more dynamic than maybe it really is. Almost fooling the sense of reacting to the track.

Now the one thing i think would be great to try and implement into MX-Bikes would be more than one way to lean forward and backward, and i don't mean taking up more buttons on the keypad either. See, the way a rider leans forward and backward on the ground in my opinion is VERY different in the air. On the ground its more a sense of the rider moving up on the bike or back on the rear fender, with the bike driving forward as it usually does.

BUT, in the air when a rider moves back or forward it usually slightly effects what the bike is doing, and the positioning of the rider in the air when he leans back and forward is generally much different. When a rider leans forward in the air he is usually "stretching" and pulling the bike to gain length on the jump, and when a guy leans back he is usually dropping the front slightly and straightening the arms, the latter is normally more common in every jump as a standard position.

I have attached a few images and further descriptions of what i mean.







In a way It almost seems there should be different way of leaning forward and backward depending on the trajectory of the jump, like on the upward motion of a jump, (as in the time from the lip to the hight point in the trajectory), and then from the high point to when you land.

It could be implemented were you use an additional button press or special key to enable different leaning motions, so in times when you would be maybe endo'ing you could use a special key and lean back to drop the front of the bike, panic rev and ride position lean back, or perhaps if you are trying to make some extra distance you can use the special key to lean back and stretch it out. To me this is a much more realistic look.

Even if there was no change to how far or short you jumped when you did this. The improved way to lean forward and back in the air aesthetically would look so much better then previous titles and feel a lot more dynamic and realistic.

Hope people understand where i'm coming from and we can get some conversation going about this. I think this is a great idea that i haven't seen implemented into game previous game.

But to summarise it would be nice to have different leaning animations/movements when the bike is off the ground, and in addition it move the bike whilst leaning each way, as you can see in the images above this is how a lot of motocross and supercross is ridden. Would be awesome to scrub off a single and stretch up towards the bars and drop the rear wheel to make it look much more realistic. Also even change the way it looks if your in the up-stroke of your air-time or the down-stroke of your airtime.

Thanks for reading guys.

i think a better recommendation would be have say a choice from 4 or so different "styles". each style the rider looks different doing different things basically and you can customize your rider more again.

would be the sickest thing to see cause no one has ever attempted it before in a mx game nor do i think any other game.

You could choose styles in SBK X but that's the only game ive seen with a multiple riding style option.

Quote from: JT43 on February 18, 2014, 12:11:55 PM
You could choose styles in SBK X but that's the only game ive seen with a multiple riding style option.

yeh sbk was cool for that, moto gp 13 features this too.

How does the different styles in sbk or moto gp work?

What if you could have your own style that you could make from your setup? Because partly by the way your bike handles forms your style and such and maybe you could form it even more from your setup. :D

Sorry to double post but i forgot to mention that this is because you would have your own style and not be limited to a list. You can be original :D

Good post!

What you're saying is that you want this
(http://pulseracingproducts.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/red-bud-mx-nationals-larocco-s-leap-MX--610x404.jpg)

But in all previous MX games it has looked like this
(http://www.ronniemac69.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/248439_10150191008089172_2067910_n.jpg)

Kinda like this?

I hear what you are saying 22Ryann, in fact we're already working on it.

That looks awesome, great work again.

Snappe You guys are always 1 step ahead. I like it  ;)

Oh my god, holy mowy! :o That's just beautiful :o

That looks awesome! Great work guys!

Nice work guys!

PS. The engine skin or whatever you call it is backwards  ;)

That looks so cool for a video game infact if someone was doing that in real life it kinda cool

Quote from: Snappe on February 18, 2014, 10:26:16 PM
Kinda like this?

I hear what you are saying 22Ryann, in fact we're already working on it.

Snappe,

Say no more! I'm glad i brought this topic up and it seems we are on the same line of thinking, Great work guys!

Ryann,

piboso and snappe, hats off to you guys, this is what listening to the end user means!

Quote from: giopanda on February 19, 2014, 12:52:19 AM
piboso and snappe, hats off to you guys, this is what listening to the end user means!

agree, not to many game builders do this (I said not many there is some) and this well

Can't wait to Huck Gio's Redbud leap with this kind of leaning! I'm sure some people will have way different riding styles than others with this.

I think it would be cool.. Like having the torso static as you pull in and out with your arms, but then also be able to have the torso bend when you want to. not just leaning forward/backward but like attack position and stuff

That would be really cool. It would be hard though

Maybe this is a bit "MX Simulator" oriented, because it's what I know, but thinking along the lines of "customizing your style" here...

What if you could use "sliders" as we have in MXS to move back/forward where your butt naturally sits on the seat, and your riders "back angle" and if they have their head far forward, or backward, and all the stuff like that. Because, like to me, I like seeing a rider sitting rather upright, with the head looking up, but some people want to see a rider in more of a "tucked" position. Idk, maybe it's alot to work with, but it would be cool and further add to the "personalization" and possibly the user created media.

Just a thought, everything looks good though :)

Gp bikes have styles in them that can be modded. I'm not sure exactly how it works but I imagine you can change seating position etc.