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Well, i took the baby and uh.. hopefully for the last time, here it is :)
By the initiative of NorCal 986 Motostar and with the help of Pacopastor, here is the jay's version of the 2016 Kawasaki Kxf.
Credits:
- Jay for the base model of the kxf
- Norcal for the initiative
- Pacopastor for his patience, and for being a good teacher
- Yann Bourgignon for his help on all the little parts on the model
- All of you for your patience !!
(https://i.gyazo.com/d6b5d2b1c7a3c1d4b3038712befded8b.jpg)
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Good job man! Can't wait to test it. I appreciate you guys putting in the work. I have the KTM also, if you guys ever want to take that on. ;D
downloading as we speak
Thank you all guys. That is the way to grow and help this community. See you on tonight's race. I hope geo uploading the bike on the server.
A magic button called "insert hyperlink" would help you dude ::) :o
ill be releasing a pack of my team and Pro Circuit bikes if you want me to add the Aerial bike.
Hate to be that guy to say it, buttt. last night i was in teamspeak and ask jay if he had seen someone released his model and if he had given anyone permission to release the model on here.. and he said no.. just would like to say even if you payed for the model i still would have asked the creator if you can release it for another game.
Quote from: Vortex_Damien on April 08, 2016, 11:49:38 PM
Hate to be that guy to say it, buttt. last night i was in teamspeak and ask jay if he had seen someone released his model and if he had given anyone permission to release the model on here.. and he said no.. just would like to say even if you payed for the model i still would have asked the creator if you can release it for another game.
ahh man, not another ripped model? honestly i hope this is a misunderstanding, especially with all the "work" thats been put it.
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Quote from: TheFatController on April 09, 2016, 12:03:33 AM
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lmao classic! those childhood memories
I mean if he bought the model then why cant he use it in a different game?
Quote from: MotardMatt on April 09, 2016, 12:17:39 AM
I mean if he bought the model then why cant he use it in a different game?
Right? And when purchasing the model, nobody was told they could not use in another game. Also, i did mention it to Jay, and it sounded like he could live with it if i let people know where they could purchase the template (which i did). What does he expect when he charges someone $100 for a model?
i don't release the model or the psd. just a bike you can use. aaaand i bought it. i mean, i bought the psd and the model. so the psd and the model, are mines. so i can use them in every games i want. i didn't bought a 9.90$ DLC for one game, i bought a 70e model, and his PSD.
So, this is not a Rip, this is not a bike made with other bikes parts, it's a bike i bought, and nobody never told me that i can't use it in other games, or make any modification, or render or whatever. i bought it, it's mine and i can do whatever i want with it but release the model or the psd. and that's exactly what i did, and didn't.
i mean... 70e guys. i HOPE i can use it in all the games i want. ^^
The model was not ripped. No one worry. This model was purchased as well as the blends and ever other dam thing he dinged us for on it. I had no contact with him on this but i also had no work on this either but i can say that if we purchased a model we are free to do what we want with it. There is no contract or copyright that says we can not. Just my 2 cents.
Quote from: geofanatec on April 09, 2016, 02:23:11 AM
I am so done with this!
It takes a lot of work (even a "ripped" model) to get into this sim.
Let if fly! Let it go!
I will say just because you buy something doesn't give you right to distribute. HOWEVER, it's like movies. If you buy it and copy it you can't SELL it, but not to say you can't distribute for FREE to whoever ;)
Amen Geo!
Quote from: NorCal 986 on April 08, 2016, 11:40:29 PM
ill be releasing a pack of my team and Pro Circuit bikes if you want me to add the Aerial bike.
thanks man but just release your pack, i'm going to make the aerial one myself :)
I'm not saying you ripped the bike or any form of that.. im simply stating that jay has no knowledge of his model being released in this game, that is why before you even released it i said to check with him to make sure so he knows and none of this happens of people 2nd guessing a model and all that.. im all for the release of this bike, i love it. just rather people get proper permissions. also just because you bought the model, you got the Mx Simulator version of the model. im sure he wont be so happy about his work getting released without his permission. but then again idk how he feels about the model being in i just asked him if he knew it was released.
See, i did tell him i uploaded it, and have done everything i can keep it from "getting out of hand" and letting those who want to buy the PSD know how contact him.(http://i.imgur.com/xBk2oWS.png)
Just downloaded and tested out the new version, the engine and exhaust look alot better but it still has 2 chains? The mxs chain looks like its been cut away from all but the front sprocket and painted black, and the new Mxb chain isn't lined up with the sprocket at the front? :) I'm cool with it just think it looks a bit janky in close ups. And, I'm happy to use this bike and publicize it if I know there isn't gonna be a shitstorm kick up about mx bikes users. I remember someone once said they were importing helmets into this game and some guy from mxs piped up saying he ripped them, can remember if they were from mxs or mxgp though?prettt certain it was mxgp.
Quote from: geofanatec on April 09, 2016, 02:23:11 AM
I am so done with this!
It takes a lot of work (even a "ripped" model) to get into this sim.
Let if fly! Let it go!
I will say just because you buy something doesn't give you right to distribute. HOWEVER, it's like movies. If you buy it and copy it you can't SELL it, but not to say you can't distribute for FREE to whoever ;)
I would like to argue it doesn't take more than a 1/10th of how much work it takes to make a complete bike. I would know, I have done both, have you?
By the way, your thinking on the movie industry is childish and low if you ask me. That type of thinking is just as worse as distributing illegally, it's called pirating and has ruined digital content based businesses. So technically yes, there is something saying you can't. It's called being a decent human, having ethics, and follow the pirating/copyright laws. Take it from the MXS community, your community will not thrive with that view.
I can see Jay being a little upset, but at the same time I don't see a problem with it. You have taken measures to ensure it isn't ripped and you haven't released the premium paid content. Would have been cool if you have give him a heads up, but that's not required obviously. Just one down fall you have to accept when you sell game-ready content, and why I never let just anyone have my obj files. Hey at least you gave the right credits.
Just examine the license or agreement that came with the purchase of the model to find out what can or can't be done with it? Done.
Quote from: teeds on April 09, 2016, 12:44:17 PM
Just examine the license or agreement that came with the purchase of the model to find out what can or can't be done with it? Done.
^^^
Quote from: m121c on April 09, 2016, 08:55:05 AM
By the way, your thinking on the movie industry is childish and low if you ask me. That type of thinking is just as worse as distributing illegally, it's called pirating and has ruined digital content based businesses. So technically yes, there is something saying you can't. It's called being a decent human, having ethics, and follow the pirating/copyright laws.
hey mc cool to see you there. i am in the cinematographic industry. i know how to make a movie and how it is distribute. do you...? ^^ just to told you that the free share of movies, piratage, torrent and streaming has done much more good than bad to the industrie. when they tell that they loose money with it, it's just NOT true at all. it's making more publicity for them than they ever imagine they could, and it's totally free. i BET Jay is gonna sell more bikes with this release than without ;)
Quote from: StoneRider on April 09, 2016, 02:31:03 PM
Quote from: m121c on April 09, 2016, 08:55:05 AM
By the way, your thinking on the movie industry is childish and low if you ask me. That type of thinking is just as worse as distributing illegally, it's called pirating and has ruined digital content based businesses. So technically yes, there is something saying you can't. It's called being a decent human, having ethics, and follow the pirating/copyright laws.
hey mc cool to see you there. i am in the cinematographic industry. i know how to make a movie and how it is distribute. do you...? ^^ just to told you that the free share of movies, piratage, torrent and streaming has done much more good than bad to the industrie. when they tell that they loose money with it, it's just NOT true at all. it's making more publicity for them than they ever imagine they could, and it's totally free. i BET Jay is gonna sell more bikes with this release than without ;)
Also, Geo is making tracks on mxb. and man, it's as hard as making a bike in 3ds max. No joke brah trust me and give it a try... ^^
sorry for the cap. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT WHEN YOU SOLD AN OBJ FILE FOR 100$?
Jay did not sell a Bike for MXsim...With their jm files of the model or a saf file and then we ripped it. NO. He sold a complete 3D model. At least we gave credits to him. We didn't have to do it.
Stone and Chris bought a model that hasn't got any kind of license or contract(I guess). Just play and let it go.
Quote from: teeds on April 09, 2016, 12:44:17 PM
Just examine the license or agreement that came with the purchase of the model to find out what can or can't be done with it? Done.
I'm sure it does not exist. ::)
So.. Why can't we skin it? ???
Quote from: pacopastor34 on April 09, 2016, 02:38:39 PM
sorry for the cap. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT WHEN YOU SOLD AN OBJ FILE FOR 100$?
Jay did not sell a Bike for MXsim...With their jm files of the model or a saf file and then we ripped it. NO. He sold a complete 3D model. At least we gave credits to him. We didn't have to do it.
Stone and Chris bought a model that hasn't got any kind of license or contract(I guess). Just play and let it go.
Quote from: teeds on April 09, 2016, 12:44:17 PM
Just examine the license or agreement that came with the purchase of the model to find out what can or can't be done with it? Done.
I'm sure it does not exist. ::)
Well if this is the case and the bike was not sold as a MX simulator model instead sold as a 3d model with the obj file i feel like its fair use to make that 3d model work in any game of your choice. If you were to release the .obj file, that would have been bad. But i don't feel like this is against any kind of morals or legal matters.
- Jay got cred for the model that he made/sold, just as he should.
- The model got twice the exposure it had before, It's now in both MXS and MX-bikes.
- If people want to alter the model in any way they still have to buy the obj file from Jay.
Quote from: Midbeck on April 09, 2016, 03:53:49 PM
Quote from: pacopastor34 on April 09, 2016, 02:38:39 PM
sorry for the cap. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT WHEN YOU SOLD AN OBJ FILE FOR 100$?
Jay did not sell a Bike for MXsim...With their jm files of the model or a saf file and then we ripped it. NO. He sold a complete 3D model. At least we gave credits to him. We didn't have to do it.
Stone and Chris bought a model that hasn't got any kind of license or contract(I guess). Just play and let it go.
Quote from: teeds on April 09, 2016, 12:44:17 PM
Just examine the license or agreement that came with the purchase of the model to find out what can or can't be done with it? Done.
I'm sure it does not exist. ::)
Well if this is the case and the bike was not sold as a MX simulator model instead sold as a 3d model with the obj file i feel like its fair use to make that 3d model work in any game of your choice. If you were to release the .obj file, that would have been bad. But i don't feel like this is against any kind of morals or legal matters.
- Jay got cred for the model that he made/sold, just as he should.
- The model got twice the exposure it had before, It's now in both MXS and MX-bikes.
- If people want to alter the model in any way they still have to buy the obj file from Jay.
That is what I think. I'm totally agree with you.
Quote from: TheFatController on April 09, 2016, 02:49:56 PM
So.. Why can't we skin it? ???
I think you can make a skin or even a template for it from the .tga file. I'll do it.
Pretty obvious if you ask me...
http://static-12.sinclairstoryline.com/resources/media/e8569130-bb2c-4715-aec1-bc0870d46347-large16x9_dirtbike.jpg?1453157240118
joking..btw
Quote from: BadStar on April 09, 2016, 05:11:40 PM
Pretty obvious if you ask me...
http://static-12.sinclairstoryline.com/resources/media/e8569130-bb2c-4715-aec1-bc0870d46347-large16x9_dirtbike.jpg?1453157240118
joking..btw
lol (http://static-12.sinclairstoryline.com/resources/media/e8569130-bb2c-4715-aec1-bc0870d46347-large16x9_dirtbike.jpg?1453157240118)
A LOT of skins are on their way trust me :). And you can always put some numbers on it
as much as I read about all the stuff from MXS, I am half-tempted to say just don't use any damn thing from there because the bullshit will come whether things are done right or not..you can bet on it.
Quote from: Paradox28 on April 13, 2016, 06:55:03 AM
as much as I read about all the stuff from MXS, I am half-tempted to say just don't use any damn thing from there because the bullshit will come whether things are done right or not..you can bet on it.
+1
Quote from: Paradox28 on April 13, 2016, 06:55:03 AM
as much as I read about all the stuff from MXS, I am half-tempted to say just don't use any damn thing from there because the bullshit will come whether things are done right or not..you can bet on it.
+1
Quote from: geofanatec on April 10, 2016, 05:49:09 PM
Just curious if this will be uploaded to MXBC? Nice to keep that site as a One-Stop-Shop :)
It will soon. an other version will be released in the day... ^^ fixed the norm, the chain, mud layers and new geom file again. i want to make it as good as i can
Quote from: Paradox28 on April 13, 2016, 06:55:03 AM
as much as I read about all the stuff from MXS, I am half-tempted to say just don't use any damn thing from there because the bullshit will come whether things are done right or not..you can bet on it.
I´m with this aswell, it´s sad to see how things went there. :(
Quote from: Mace-x on April 13, 2016, 05:28:19 PM
Quote from: Paradox28 on April 13, 2016, 06:55:03 AM
as much as I read about all the stuff from MXS, I am half-tempted to say just don't use any damn thing from there because the bullshit will come whether things are done right or not..you can bet on it.
I´m with this aswell, it´s sad to see how things went there. :(
MXBikes and MXSIM communities are different species ;) MXBikes has a more mature community in this moment.
Quote from: pacopastor34 on April 13, 2016, 10:43:26 PM
Quote from: Mace-x on April 13, 2016, 05:28:19 PM
Quote from: Paradox28 on April 13, 2016, 06:55:03 AM
as much as I read about all the stuff from MXS, I am half-tempted to say just don't use any damn thing from there because the bullshit will come whether things are done right or not..you can bet on it.
I´m with this aswell, it´s sad to see how things went there. :(
MXBikes and MXSIM communities are different species ;) MXBikes has a more mature community in this moment.
YEA!! BAN ANYONE WHO HAS A COPY OF MX SIMULATOR!!! THEY ARE ALL TERRIBLE PEOPLE!!!
You can't compare this forum community with MX Simulator..... This community is still very small and doesn't have a lot going on yet. MX Simulator has thousands of active members, and trust me, if this game is going to be a success, it will end up like that forum. There are a lot of good people on MX Simulator, but when you have that many members, and that much racing/ skinning/ modeling/ etc. the few assholes give the whole community a bad name, so enjoy it while it lasts. And I hate it when people choose to charge for content, but I have the choice not to buy it! 8)
Quote from: Phathry25 on April 14, 2016, 04:29:36 PM
Quote from: pacopastor34 on April 13, 2016, 10:43:26 PM
Quote from: Mace-x on April 13, 2016, 05:28:19 PM
Quote from: Paradox28 on April 13, 2016, 06:55:03 AM
as much as I read about all the stuff from MXS, I am half-tempted to say just don't use any damn thing from there because the bullshit will come whether things are done right or not..you can bet on it.
I´m with this aswell, it´s sad to see how things went there. :(
MXBikes and MXSIM communities are different species ;) MXBikes has a more mature community in this moment.
YEA!! BAN ANYONE WHO HAS A COPY OF MX SIMULATOR!!! THEY ARE ALL TERRIBLE PEOPLE!!!
Ban me!!!!
Quote from: pacopastor34 on April 19, 2016, 10:49:35 AM
Quote from: Phathry25 on April 14, 2016, 04:29:36 PM
Quote from: pacopastor34 on April 13, 2016, 10:43:26 PM
Quote from: Mace-x on April 13, 2016, 05:28:19 PM
Quote from: Paradox28 on April 13, 2016, 06:55:03 AM
as much as I read about all the stuff from MXS, I am half-tempted to say just don't use any damn thing from there because the bullshit will come whether things are done right or not..you can bet on it.
I´m with this aswell, it´s sad to see how things went there. :(
MXBikes and MXSIM communities are different species ;) MXBikes has a more mature community in this moment.
YEA!! BAN ANYONE WHO HAS A COPY OF MX SIMULATOR!!! THEY ARE ALL TERRIBLE PEOPLE!!!
Ban me!!!!
Me three!
Just a bunch of nitwits over there at MX Sim. Build that wall and make MX Sim pay for it! Right? It'll be yuuuuge.
Quote from: Phathry25 on April 14, 2016, 04:29:36 PM
Quote from: pacopastor34 on April 13, 2016, 10:43:26 PM
Quote from: Mace-x on April 13, 2016, 05:28:19 PM
Quote from: Paradox28 on April 13, 2016, 06:55:03 AM
as much as I read about all the stuff from MXS, I am half-tempted to say just don't use any damn thing from there because the bullshit will come whether things are done right or not..you can bet on it.
I´m with this aswell, it´s sad to see how things went there. :(
MXBikes and MXSIM communities are different species ;) MXBikes has a more mature community in this moment.
YEA!! BAN ANYONE WHO HAS A COPY OF MX SIMULATOR!!! THEY ARE ALL TERRIBLE PEOPLE!!!
I do not discriminate between MXS people and MXB people: as they all like MX bikes instead of road bikes, they are all terrible people ;D
No more words needed to understand the difference of problem between these 2 communities.
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mxsimulator
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Quote from: HornetMaX on April 19, 2016, 10:41:01 PM
Quote from: Phathry25 on April 14, 2016, 04:29:36 PM
Quote from: pacopastor34 on April 13, 2016, 10:43:26 PM
Quote from: Mace-x on April 13, 2016, 05:28:19 PM
Quote from: Paradox28 on April 13, 2016, 06:55:03 AM
as much as I read about all the stuff from MXS, I am half-tempted to say just don't use any damn thing from there because the bullshit will come whether things are done right or not..you can bet on it.
I´m with this aswell, it´s sad to see how things went there. :(
MXBikes and MXSIM communities are different species ;) MXBikes has a more mature community in this moment.
YEA!! BAN ANYONE WHO HAS A COPY OF MX SIMULATOR!!! THEY ARE ALL TERRIBLE PEOPLE!!!
I do not discriminate between MXS people and MXB people: as they all like MX bikes instead of road bikes, they are all terrible people ;D
Loool, go back to the road where you belong Max! ;D
Anyways, let´s end this arguing? it´s kind of pointless to throw shit in the internet. :)
i think all of us are moto lovers, let´s settle on that and keep loving them! ;D
Agreed! I can only hope this game turns out like MXS, with some A-holes in the mix, because that will mean only mean one thing! This game is successful! Because to have a successful game you need enough people to where there will always have A-holes. Like i said before, enjoy the early days and be an OG, thats the only thing ive really taken from MXS. #UID321