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Title: New Computer.
Post by: moto28 on May 20, 2014, 10:48:04 PM
Im deciding to crack down and buy a new computer. Still not for certain which one i will buy but the one i have a really close eye on seems pretty legit to me and i was wondering if you guys can help me out and tell me how you think it will perform with most stuff.

Intel Core I7-4820k CPU
2Tb Hardrive
16GB Ram
AMD R9 270 2GB Graphics. ( REALLY want to know if this is good because i want a really good graphics card. Its the main reason im wanting to buy a new computer.)
GIGABYTE X79-UP4 ATX MB ( dont really know what this is..)

All in which for 1289 without monitor or keyboard or anything.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: matty0l215 on May 20, 2014, 11:40:39 PM
What do you want the pc to do (gaming, 3d modeling, graphic stuff, etc.)?
If you want it just for gaming an i7 is a little overkill, a good i5 would be fine (unless you don't mind paying that is, but the money would be better invested in a better graphics card)
And whats your budget?

Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: moto28 on May 20, 2014, 11:52:18 PM
Gaming. I have no talent at any of that stuff haha. I want to keep it around 1300.  But i do have to get a monitor and keyboard and mouse too so it all just depends i guess. I wont end up buying it until a few months from now and i will make plenty of money between now and then so i may be able to go over that but as of now lets try and keep it at that.

EDIT: I may try and do that sort of stuff in the future though. Im building a custom one off of cyberpowerpc and i have a certain list of things and they will build it for me. I just want the biggest bang for my buck.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: matty0l215 on May 21, 2014, 12:00:28 AM
Sorry, what currency is that? and then an i7 is definitely overkill, even an intel cpu isn't necessary, i'm running an AMD FX6300 and a HD7950 and i can run anything max and can keep 60fps

Edit: also you don't need 16GB of ram, 8gb is all you need
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: moto28 on May 21, 2014, 12:07:10 AM
U.s. Currency. and wow i had no idea i wouldnt need any of this stuff haha  ::)

How do you think it would do on games like arma? My pc i have right now cant play anything like that and it has 8 Gb Cpu and a Intel Hd Graphics card. I mainly liked the components because im 90% sure every single one of them are double what i have now.

On the website it has a Fps indicator and it can play Bioshock Infinite with maxed out settings and not drop less than 71 fps.  ( Just dont wanna lose that haha)

Im kinda nervous getting the same components when i cant play arma at all because im less than 25 fps the whole time haha  ::)
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: matty0l215 on May 21, 2014, 12:26:26 AM
If your playing games like Arma then an Intel CPU would be best
This might work as a build, its got everything (things like keyboard, mouse and moniter are personal prefrence really but this would be a solid build i think

PCPartPicker part list (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3NQd6) / Price breakdown by merchant (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3NQd6/by_merchant/) / Benchmarks (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3NQd6/benchmarks/)

CPU:  Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670k)  ($189.99 @ Micro Center)
CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2)  ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard:  ASRock Z87 Pro3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z87pro3)  ($99.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory:  G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f314900cl9d8gbxl)  ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm001)  ($83.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card:  Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr928xoc3gdrev2)  ($299.99 @ Newegg)
Case:  Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-200r)  ($57.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply:  Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx500m)  ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System:  Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-gfc02050)  ($97.27 @ TigerDirect)
Monitor:  Acer V226HQLAbd 60Hz 21.5" Monitor (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/acer-monitor-umwv6aaa01)  ($107.70 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard:  Gigabyte GK-K6800 Wired Standard Keyboard (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-keyboard-gkk6800)  ($11.85 @ NCIX US)
Mouse:  Cooler Master CM Storm Xornet Wired Optical Mouse (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-mouse-sgm2001blon1)  ($20.94 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1127.66
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-20 18:21 EDT-0400)

You might also want to chat to the people over on the build a pc subreddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc (http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc)). Just tell them what your looking for and they'll tell you what you need. :D
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: moto28 on May 21, 2014, 01:05:14 AM
I tried my best to get all the parts on that list to be built by cyberpower. The end result on there ended up being $1591.

ofcourse it didnt have all the same parts and they will be building it for me and not vice versa. But the way you made it sound sounds like im getting more of a computer for less. A little overkill never hurt nobody  ;)

I think its part of their deal thing they do with the whole package of all the parts combined or whatever.

With monitor and everything with the build it comes with is $1447. Thoughts? :D
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: matty0l215 on May 21, 2014, 01:40:48 AM
I'm from the UK so I'm not to familiar with prices in the US but going on a converted cost, I wouldn't buy it, but that's because I know I can buy all the parts for cheaper and build it for nothing. Buying a PC from someone like Cyberpower has its pros and cons.
Pros- They build it for you, if it goes wrong you call them and they fix it. All parts should have some sort of warranty. Sometimes, if they trying to get rid of older stock (not necessarily bad) they put parts on sale.
Cons- It costs way more than it should, they'll make it seem like its the dogs bollocks (like saying because its got 16gb of ram and a 2tb hard drive its gonna be fast), but unless they tell you more about the parts (for example the spec on things like the ram, hard drives and the monitor) you could be getting a pile of crap. (saying that it is dependent on the company). Also if they use their own custom case there might not be any room to upgrade/expand

If you're uncomfortable building your own PC then there's nothing wrong with a pre-built, especially if you don't mind paying for it. Just keep an eye on the spec and any aftercare/support offered  (Read the small print) and if possible try to do a deal with them (see what they'll throw in or drop the price of, the list price can sometimes be negotiable).

Any questions just give us a shout :)


Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: bearded4glory on May 21, 2014, 02:13:01 AM
If you have a microcenter near you that is the best place to buy motherboard/CPU combos (cheapest).  Their other stuff is a little higher priced (to get back the money they saved you on the MB/CPU) but I think they offer reasonable assembly fees.

If that isn't an option, take a look at a couple videos about building a computer.  Its really easy, the hardest part is picking the components.  If you can put together legos, you can build a computer its like legos with wires.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPIXAtNGGCw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPIXAtNGGCw)

You can skip part 1 because we can give you advise on a good build in your price range but it may be good to understand each component and be able to at least compare stuff that we recommend.

IDK I would probably try to do a 4770k build if I was in your position, last I priced one out it was $1500 but there are definitely some areas I went more expensive then you have to.  Combine that with a GTX 760 or the 8xx series when they hit and you will be golden for all the newest games and be future proof for quite a while.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: moto28 on May 21, 2014, 02:56:40 AM
For my first time ever doing anything really big like this with a computer id really rather not attempt to build it myself.

And no there are no computer places like that where i am from.

Im worried about messing up with the building of it and it seems like a big hastle to me to wait on each indivdual part to come in and order and such.

My main question is whats wrong/bad about this build i have now? downgrading the Ram is only going to save about 50 bucks and i feel like 50 bucks to double my ram sounds pretty good.

On the website they have a thing that shows the Fps on modern games like Bioshock Starcraft and things like that on medium high and ultra settings and mine right now can get 71 on ultra on bioshock which was the thing that dropped it the most. I have yet to hit 71 fps my entire life on any computer on anything so to me thats not much of a pain for me to see haha. I really dont care to be in the triple digit fps on every game in the universe on ultra. most people think when their pc's are on 40-50 fps its like the end of the world but believe me when you constantly on 20-30 the only time its the end of the world is when you get to about 8. haha

I feel like if i do really need to upgrade im willing to take out the components already in and do any upgrading necessary.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: uollie on May 21, 2014, 08:35:59 AM
Although I built my computer, I'm not real savvy with the knowledge of what is best. But, from experience, if you plan on upgrading your computer even further in the future. I highly recommend you invest in a large case, a really good PSU (at least 750 mw) and go big on a GPU.

Large case because a good GPU will be massive and you want a lot of space in your case so you get good airflow and it's easy to clean and work around. Big PSU because I originally had a 500mw and everything was fine till I upgraded my GPU and my output was something like 550mw and I ended up having to upgrade a PSU and GPU at the same time which sucked.

You can go bargain and get an i5 but if you're anything like me, I'd just go i7 too so you never have to worry about upgrading for years.

For motherboards I just pick a brand I know of and make sure everything I want is compatible with it.

The 16gb of ram is overkill but if you want it go for it. I've never needed more than my 8gb for just gaming and I don't think the day will ever come.

Make sure you get 64 bit OS or the RAM past 4gb won't read. I just stick with windows 7 64 bit.

My rig is over 2 years old now and I run arma 3 with 40+ FPS. My GPU is a huge bottleneck compared to everything still. I use a AMD Radeon 7990, though. It's pretty dated but I'm perfectly content with how it runs my games.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: GDUBMX on May 21, 2014, 09:04:07 AM
Moto seriously dude build it yourself. I'm about to start building my new comp. I would never pay for a pre built one as Matty said your paying for old over priced parts,
That motherboard is 3 years old, the graphics card is a lowend one considering the price you'll be paying. Take a look at my build, this hasn't got the same power as your cpu but is good enough for what I need.
Intel i5 4570 3.2ghz cpu
MSI nvidia gtx 770 2gb gpu
As rock extreme 3 motherboard
8gb corsair vengeance ram
Corsair 600w psu
Acer 24inch monitor
Cooler master k280 case
1tb hard drive
I have keyboard, mouse,win7 64.
Thats roughly £750
I've left enough room so I can upgrade in the future, that will probably blow some game out the water, check the VGA performance charts.my card ranks 8 in the top ten cards ever and 6 in the high end performance charts. I play arma 2 and 3. Star citizen and lots more. Watch some video in PC building mate. You'll be fine and happy knowing you saved a fortune.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: 𝖙𝖋𝖈 on May 21, 2014, 09:21:31 AM
I agree with gdub build your own. Although I got a laptop for work with pretty much the same spec as in your first post (better graphics card) and it runs most games great. Though It is an msi gaming laptop. It does me. And yeh its i7 and 16gb but like some people have said it will be good for longer.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: matty0l215 on May 21, 2014, 11:41:45 AM
The PC I'm using now is the first i built and I'll never look back. http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/) is your friend here, they helped me a lot, just tell them what your budget is and what you want the pc to do, they'll tell you what you need.
Have a look at http://www.logicalincrements.com/ (http://www.logicalincrements.com/) gives you an idea of parts for a build
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: bearded4glory on May 21, 2014, 09:39:14 PM
Build it yourself because you save money or spend the same amount of money and get a better computer.  As far as everything coming separate, I ordered 90% of my build on Amazon and it all showed up within a day or two of each other.  Watch that video I posted, it shows the whole process so you can see really how easy it is.  You will need to look in the manual a few times to see what slot the graphics card goes in and where all the plugs go to the motherboard but other than that it could not be any easier.  90% of the plugs only go to their specific socket so its impossible to screw it up, the other 10% are for like headphone jacks and stuff that you cant screw up if you tried.  If you  forget to plug something in, depending on what it is, either nothing will happen or it will try to start and realize that stuff is unplugged and tell you about it.

Plus, it is fun and becomes a hobby in itself.

The downside is that you dont have 1 person/company to yell at if something goes out.  You will have to track down the problem yourself (quite easy) and deal with the company who made the component directly.  Other than that there is no reason not to do it.  Hell if you lived by me I would put it together for you for free since I like doing it.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: moto28 on May 21, 2014, 10:40:53 PM
Cant believe you guys talked me into it...  ::)

I will be building my own computer now. Ill get a List of my parts on here and yall can tell me advice and such for it.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: matty0l215 on May 22, 2014, 12:33:10 AM
Quote from: moto28 on May 21, 2014, 10:40:53 PM
Cant believe you guys talked me into it...  ::)

I will be building my own computer now. Ill get a List of my parts on here and yall can tell me advice and such for it.

Glad to hear it ;D
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: moto28 on May 22, 2014, 01:26:12 AM
But before i go into this.. I watched the NewEgg video on the actual assembling of the computer & my biggest question is how the heck do you know what to plug in to what on the motherboard? Theres wires goin every way imaginable

Also looks like he had to have a bunch of adapters and stuff. Will all that be included when i buy my stuff?


Basically when all my parts come in will i be able to build a working Pc right at that moment?
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: moto28 on May 22, 2014, 03:16:33 AM
I absolutely HATE having to look at the manuals of things.  >:(

Makes me feel like some chump who cant do it himself haha but im willing to for the amount of money im shelling out on this thing.

Is the static thing really necessary where he touches the case every so often.

Although i am a redneck and do tend to have a "looks good to me" kinda attitude to some things lol
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: GDUBMX on May 22, 2014, 08:49:27 AM
Lol awesome! Moto go on eBay and get yourself a 2 dollar anti static wrist band. YouTube how to build a PC and watch a few so you get the idea.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: 𝖙𝖋𝖈 on May 22, 2014, 09:51:33 AM
Well you feel like a chump because you can't do it yourself,  but if you dont read the manual, how you ever gonna know how to do it in the first place! 8)

Also things tend to have specific fit. If it doesn't fit in a socket then it doesn't go there. Its pretty simple- when you do it you will realise.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: matty0l215 on May 22, 2014, 11:22:13 AM
Along with the Newegg video, i used this one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Js2A1qdB8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Js2A1qdB8)) from Tek Syndicate. Just another nice and detailed build guide.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: bearded4glory on May 22, 2014, 09:51:26 PM
Like I said, virtually all the plugs and sockets can only be put together in the right spot.  The only real exception I can think of at the moment is the power switch, reset switch, leds, and all that stuff.  The manual is helpful but typically everything is written on the board (super small hard as hell to read with limited light in the case) so you could go that route if you so choose.

You will be stoked when you get it up and running, trust me.  I really want to build a new computer for work, just have to convince my Dad (also my boss) that it will make us more money haha.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: moto28 on May 22, 2014, 10:46:48 PM
Memory:
G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8Gb
$79.99
Cpu:
Intel Core i5-4570
$199.99
Case:
Xigmatek Talon CCM-38BBW (Could change but pretty set on it as of now)
$99.99
Power Supply:
Rosewill HIVE Series Hive-750 750w
$89.99
GRAPHICS CARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:
Gigabyte Gv-n770oc-2gd GeForce GTX 770 2gb
$334.99
Motherboard:
ASRock Z97X KILLER
$157.99
Fan:
Rosewill RCX-Z90-AL
$9.99
Storage:
Seagate Barracuda 2TB Hard Drive
$89.99
Monitor:
Refurbished: Acer G206HQLbd Black 19.5"
$74.00
Keyboard & Mouse:
Cm Storm Devastator Blue LED
$29.99
Speakers:
Logitech S120
$14.99

Total Build: $1,181.90
Seems pretty Legit to me
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: m_soetaert on May 22, 2014, 11:56:23 PM
Quote from: moto28 on May 22, 2014, 10:46:48 PM
Memory:
G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8Gb
$79.99
Cpu:
Intel Core i5-4570
$199.99
Case:
Xigmatek Talon CCM-38BBW (Could change but pretty set on it as of now)
$99.99
Power Supply:
Rosewill HIVE Series Hive-750 750w
$89.99
GRAPHICS CARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:
Gigabyte Gv-n770oc-2gd GeForce GTX 770 2gb
$334.99
Motherboard:
ASRock Z97X KILLER
$157.99
Fan:
Rosewill RCX-Z90-AL
$9.99
Storage:
Seagate Barracuda 2TB Hard Drive
$89.99
Monitor:
Refurbished: Acer G206HQLbd Black 19.5"
$74.00
Keyboard & Mouse:
Cm Storm Devastator Blue LED
$29.99
Speakers:
Logitech S120
$14.99

Total Build: $1,181.90
Seems pretty Legit to me
I would definitely think about adding an SSD to put your OS on. It will make your computer seem so much faster.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: moto28 on May 23, 2014, 12:14:09 AM
I got a friend who is going to give me a usb with windows 7 on it. Does that count?
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: GDUBMX on May 23, 2014, 12:19:03 AM
Lol an ssd is a hard drive mate, he means you'll have 2 hard drives, ur 2tb disc based hard drive for games etc, then your say 160gb solid state which is like RAM so it loads a bit faster.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: moto28 on May 23, 2014, 12:35:47 AM
How much more will that add on?
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: bearded4glory on May 23, 2014, 04:18:26 AM
I recommend a samsung 250gb evo, they run about $125.  I have a samsung pro 256gb in mine, windows boots in about 10 seconds and everything is so snappy.  Be careful though, you will never want to use a computer without a SSD every again (like my work computer).
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: moto28 on May 23, 2014, 05:34:55 AM
I honestly care none about boot time if thats all it does. I hardly ever turn off my computers haha and if so 30 secs - 1 min isnt gonna kill me
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: bearded4glory on May 23, 2014, 08:02:13 AM
All read and write operations are faster.  Fast traditional hard drives read at 120-150mb/s and a Samsung Pro reads at 540mb/s.  Its not just boot time, its every time you load a file...ever.  Its like crack and I am addicted.

Also, if you are building your own system I would recommend going with a unlocked processor.  Later down the road you may decide that you want to overclock and if you don't have a unlocked processor you wont be able to.  I overclocked my 4930k from 3.9ghz to 4.5ghz and it is great.  I got an extra 15% of processing power for $25 (to buy the intel protection plan so they will replace my processor if I cook it).  For $30 more you can get a 4670k rather than the 4570, other than that I think the build is looking good.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: 𝖙𝖋𝖈 on May 23, 2014, 09:49:16 AM
Solid state is definitely the way to go, worth every penny
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: moto28 on May 23, 2014, 07:40:38 PM
How do i see whether the processor is unlocked or not? And im going to be on a cruise.. No wifi out at sea or in any other of the countrys ill be going to.

So no one think im just ignoring you guys :D

Also i may just build the computer like it is and maybe add the SD later or is that not possible?
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: GDUBMX on May 23, 2014, 08:45:32 PM
Of course you can add what ever you want providing your motherboard suits it, which in the ssd case it will. And unlocked CPU's have a k at the end of the model number. You have chosen the 4570 (same as me) which will actually boost to 3.6ghz if it feels it needs to. The 4670k can be unlocked manually to achieve faster speeds. (Lower the life if cpu/increased heat etc) I've purposely decided to opt for the 4570 as at stock speed they are virtually the same cpu. Plus I left it so I can get a higher speed cpu later on by buying a motherboard that permits it. Your machine will run super sweet mate, the card you've chosen is a bomb and the cpu will work well with it. Although moto I've researched the gtx 760/770 range and the MSI twin frozr offers the best cooling. Its the one I've chosen also. 
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: bearded4glory on May 23, 2014, 09:29:17 PM
Quote from: gdubmx on May 23, 2014, 08:45:32 PM
Of course you can add what ever you want providing your motherboard suits it, which in the ssd case it will. And unlocked CPU's have a k at the end of the model number. You have chosen the 4570 (same as me) which will actually boost to 3.6ghz if it feels it needs to. The 4670k can be unlocked manually to achieve faster speeds. (Lower the life if cpu/increased heat etc) I've purposely decided to opt for the 4570 as at stock speed they are virtually the same cpu. Plus I left it so I can get a higher speed cpu later on by buying a motherboard that permits it. Your machine will run super sweet mate, the card you've chosen is a bomb and the cpu will work well with it. Although moto I've researched the gtx 760/770 range and the MSI twin frozr offers the best cooling. Its the one I've chosen also.

1150 Socket has fast cpus so buy once cry once if you are buying a 1150 board.  Personally I would go with a Asus board but there are tons to choose from, if I was building a system today I would do a bitfenix prodigy case, asus Maximus Gene, 4770k, gtx760, samsung evo 250gb ssd, wd blue 2tb storage drive, corsair ax760 psu, and drop in some gskills 16gb 1866 ram in to finish it off.

The 4570 stock clocks are 3.2 boosting to 3.6 the 4670k is 3.4 boosting to 3.8.  So for $30 you get .2ghz stock clock bump but lets say you did a very mild 10% OC you are at 4.2ghz or 16% faster than the 4570.  I say it is for sure worth it, even with the protection plan for $50 to get .8ghz that is cheap (you would probably need to upgrade the cpu heatsink but there are some decent options for less than $50).  The great thing is you can choose to take the .2ghz and leave it like that forever or decide at any time you wish you had a little extra power...Rather than speding on a faster cpu to go in the same socket you can simply OC it a bit and get that warm fuzzy feeling of a new system again (for at least a week haha).

Just my recommendation, there is nothing wrong with the locked processor this is just what I would do.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: moto28 on May 31, 2014, 06:47:49 PM
Hey guys just got back from my cruise.

Ill look over what all yall said in a bit im just trying to catch up on every other forum post haha
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: HornetMaX on June 03, 2014, 02:08:58 PM
Spending 1200+ $ on a PC with no SSD is just unacceptable today.

I would throw an SSD even in a 600$ PC.

MaX.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: RiccoChicco on June 03, 2014, 04:00:30 PM
Agree, at least to install the OS on it. In addition, SSDs have become not so expensive.

256GB SSD + 1TB HDD is perfect nowadays.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: moto28 on June 04, 2014, 05:12:25 AM
I may be able to make some extra moneys this summer so i just may buy the SSD.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: MotoRogers499 on June 04, 2014, 01:46:26 PM
Quote from: RiccoChicco on June 03, 2014, 04:00:30 PM
Agree, at least to install the OS on it. In addition, SSDs have become not so expensive.

256GB SSD + 1TB HDD is perfect nowadays.

256GB is a bit much for an SSD. Rely more on the HDD and get like a 128GB SSD, thats plenty. Unless you plan on running like everything from it. Heck, I have a 24GB SSD haha
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: HornetMaX on June 05, 2014, 01:00:03 AM
Quote from: MotoRogers499 on June 04, 2014, 01:46:26 PM
256GB is a bit much for an SSD. Rely more on the HDD and get like a 128GB SSD, thats plenty. Unless you plan on running like everything from it. Heck, I have a 24GB SSD haha
At today's prices, I'd definitely get a 256GB SSD, even if you have to get a non-top-notch one : the difference between an HDD and an SSD is huge, but the difference between an average SSD and an excellent SSD is little.

MaX.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: moto28 on June 05, 2014, 08:11:03 PM
I'm hearing a range of different answers and suggestions on which way to go about this. Can we all just get along and make 1 good way to do it? :D
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: HornetMaX on June 05, 2014, 09:30:48 PM
Quote from: moto28 on June 05, 2014, 08:11:03 PM
I'm hearing a range of different answers and suggestions on which way to go about this. Can we all just get along and make 1 good way to do it? :D

Uhmm, no, we can't.

General rules: if it's for gaming only, an i7 is overshoot (except for some rare games that are CPU limited).
Do you plan to overclock ? If no you can save some money on the CPU (getting a non-K one) and maybe on the mobo (but I wouldn't).
I wouldn't go AMD for the CPU, but it's certainly doable for a gaming rig: it's just not worth IMO.

SSD: 128GB is a very minimum if you plan to spend 1000+ $. I'd go 256GB for sure.

Motherboard: avoid the "gaming" stuff, it's only marketing most of the time. Same for RAM: get 8GB (16 if you can) no frills with non-hardcore timings (timings make a very very tiny difference, especially for gaming).

Graphics card: after years of AMD (4850, 6850, 2x6850, now 7950) I can tell you my next one will be an NVidia for sure. AMD tends to have worse support for openGL, which is used by all Piboso's games (but nothing else essentially, game-wise). 760 is sweet-spot right now (MSI seems to have the best ones).

Tom's hardware has some nice recap of CPUs,  GPUs and SSDs (updated monthly or something):

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106.html (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106.html)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107.html (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107.html)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-recommendation-benchmark,3269.html (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-recommendation-benchmark,3269.html)

Personal advice: investing in a 120/144Hz monitor is something you'll never ever regret. And you'll never ever go back to 60Hz ones, IPS or not.

MaX.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: moto28 on June 11, 2014, 11:08:36 PM
Dont i need a wireless internet reciever aswell?
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: MotoRogers499 on June 12, 2014, 01:07:01 AM
Quote from: moto28 on June 11, 2014, 11:08:36 PM
Dont i need a wireless internet reciever aswell?

Don't you have an ethernet cable?
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: GDUBMX on June 12, 2014, 06:04:41 AM
Quote from: moto28 on June 11, 2014, 11:08:36 PM
Dont i need a wireless internet reciever aswell?

Wire LAN is faster but if you can't run that then yes you do. I picked one up for my build for £4. USB wireless adaptor. Get an 'n' one which goes up to 300mb/s.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: moto28 on June 12, 2014, 06:06:12 AM
Where would i plug the ethernet cable into? Would that be part of the motherboard?
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: GDUBMX on June 12, 2014, 07:23:23 AM
Yes mate.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: moto28 on June 12, 2014, 03:33:49 PM
ok. ive always just gone off of wifi  ::)
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: moto28 on July 03, 2014, 03:32:04 PM
Guys, everything EXCEPT for my case comes in today. Kinda upset :(
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: MotoRogers499 on July 03, 2014, 09:11:09 PM
Quote from: moto28 on July 03, 2014, 03:32:04 PM
Guys, everything EXCEPT for my case comes in today. Kinda upset :(

Screw the case. My brother used a cardboard box for like a month before his case came in lol
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: GDUBMX on July 04, 2014, 12:26:25 AM
Stick some photos up moto. My new beast will be finished in 3 weeks! I'll stick some pics up along with my spec. Shame we aint got a nice new MX game to play eh!
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: MotoRogers499 on July 04, 2014, 04:05:50 AM
Quote from: gdubmx on July 04, 2014, 12:26:25 AM
Stick some photos up moto. My new beast will be finished in 3 weeks! I'll stick some pics up along with my spec. Shame we aint got a nice new MX game to play eh!

playing the guilt trip.... i see G-Dub. i see how it is.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: moto28 on July 06, 2014, 03:21:52 PM
Build was a success. Will get some pics up later.

Although i had no clue what i was doing most of the time and my #1 problem i encountered was finding the power button all in all it worked amazing!

Somehow my cpu manages to stay at 57 degrees with a stock heat sync fan so obviously some really good airflow.

I tested it out on arma 3 and ran ultra graphics without a problem :D

Sim runs max everything aswell.

Plus i got glowing lights n stuff all on it so it looks sick :D


Thank you all who encouraged me and made me man up to this project. DEFINITELY worth it. (:
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: matty0l215 on July 16, 2014, 08:48:42 PM
Glad to hear it :D
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: GDUBMX on July 23, 2014, 11:11:00 AM
Update on my build. Finished it on Monday been updating the crap out of win7 since lol. A few changes since my op. I'm more than happy with it as it was my first ever build! Destroys every game on ultra at 60 fps I've tried so far
Bf 4
Dayz standalone
Arma 2 /3
Assestto corsa
Star citizen
Spintires
The golf club
Next car game etc..
Budget was £800. Here's the spec and costs.
Intel i5 4690k devils canyon.£172
MSI geforce gtx 770 4gb.£269
Asrock z97 extreme 4.£99
Corsair vengeance lp 8gb(2x4gb) £59
Corsair CX 750 PSU. £60
Samsung DVD rewriter.£10
Zalman z11 case £45
Aoc 21.5" monitor. £85
Coolermaster hyper evo 212.£25

I'll get some pics up soon!
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: onlyonetone on July 23, 2014, 07:25:50 PM
Nice dude!

That build is pretty awesome and cheap at that.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: Omar on July 23, 2014, 10:23:43 PM
Quote from: gdubmx on July 23, 2014, 11:11:00 AM
Update on my build. Finished it on Monday been updating the crap out of win7 since lol. A few changes since my op. I'm more than happy with it as it was my first ever build! Destroys every game on ultra at 60 fps I've tried so far
Bf 4
Dayz standalone
Arma 2 /3
Assestto corsa
Star citizen
Spintires
The golf club
Next car game etc..
Budget was £800. Here's the spec and costs.
Intel i5 4690k devils canyon.£172
MSI geforce gtx 770 4gb.£269
Asrock z97 extreme 4.£99
Corsair vengeance lp 8gb(2x4gb) £59
Corsair CX 750 PSU. £60
Samsung DVD rewriter.£10
Zalman z11 case £45
Aoc 21.5" monitor. £85
Coolermaster hyper evo 212.£25

I'll get some pics up soon!

DAMN, BF4, DayZ, Arma 3 on ULTRA???!!Nice job!
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: bearded4glory on July 24, 2014, 02:52:51 AM
I am starting a new build for my computer at work that is similar to yours.

Asus Sabertooth z97 Mark II
I7-4790k (only a few $$$ more than the 4770k I was planning why not)
16GB Gskill Ares 1600
EVGA GTX 760 SC 2gb
NZXT H440 Case (Super stoked on this case, I think I may be in love)
NZXT Krakken X61 (excited to try this out)
Corsair CX500M
Samsung EVO 250gb SSD (will be the only drive since all our files are on the server)
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: moto28 on August 05, 2014, 10:39:30 PM
Thats a sweet build. Have you finished it yet? Btw guys sorry for not putting any pics up!


Ive just been a lazy bum but i will later on today :D
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: bearded4glory on August 06, 2014, 03:48:44 AM
Yep, used it at work all day today.  Still getting all my software setup as I need it but so far it is a much needed improvement over my old HP.

(https://scontent-a-pao.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t1.0-9/10565205_10154467236060217_6305120901298825525_n.jpg)

(https://scontent-b-pao.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/10541380_10154467235960217_5918860289337242548_o.jpg)

Not sure why that one picture is bigger than the other.  Oh well.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: moto28 on August 06, 2014, 04:08:34 AM
How did you ever actually end up convincing your dad it will make more money?
::)

Seems like with those gaming parts it just may do the opposite ;)
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: bearded4glory on August 06, 2014, 09:00:11 AM
The workstation parts are more expensive and perform roughly the same.  Could have probably used a air cooler and saved a little money but water looks so much better.  Now I want a H440 and a custom loop for my home build.  That one is more wild than this one with a 4930k and 32gb of ram.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: HornetMaX on August 06, 2014, 10:00:29 AM
Quote from: bearded4glory on August 06, 2014, 09:00:11 AM
Could have probably used a air cooler and saved a little money but water looks so much better.
Except you don't look that often inside your PC, especially when playing :)

+1 for air cooling: cheaper, almost same performances (unless you overclock heavily) and much quieter.
Not to mention that if in 3yrs from now an air cooler breaks down it's no big deal, while if a water cooler leaks ...

MaX.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: GDUBMX on August 06, 2014, 04:53:56 PM
Update: Added Pics.
Intel i5 4690k devils canyon.
MSI geforce gtx 770 4gb.
Asrock z97 extreme 4.
Corsair vengeance lp 8gb(2x4gb)
Corsair CX 750 PSU.
Samsung DVD rewriter.
Zalman z11 case.
Coolermaster hyper evo 212
Note: i might eventually get a modular PSU as opposed to a non-modular. I used less that half of all the cables which makes it a it of a pain for cable management. all in all tho im happy with my virgin build. :)
(http://s24.postimg.org/r8lfi9151/IMG_20140806_152514312.jpg)
(http://s4.postimg.org/nti8lfcrh/IMG_20140806_152540296.jpg)
(http://s18.postimg.org/8pym9m7m1/IMG_20140806_152524611.jpg)
(http://s24.postimg.org/6toy76i2t/IMG_20140806_145411949_HDR.jpg)
(http://s28.postimg.org/7mpu9ft99/IMG_20140806_145425268_HDR.jpg)
(http://s7.postimg.org/kfe51txej/IMG_20140806_145521033.jpg)
(http://s18.postimg.org/7vgo1bp55/IMG_20140806_145528996.jpg)
(http://s18.postimg.org/w0hdj19ft/IMG_20140806_145536620.jpg)
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: bearded4glory on August 09, 2014, 12:21:00 AM
Quote from: HornetMaX on August 06, 2014, 10:00:29 AM
Quote from: bearded4glory on August 06, 2014, 09:00:11 AM
Could have probably used a air cooler and saved a little money but water looks so much better.
Except you don't look that often inside your PC, especially when playing :)

+1 for air cooling: cheaper, almost same performances (unless you overclock heavily) and much quieter.
Not to mention that if in 3yrs from now an air cooler breaks down it's no big deal, while if a water cooler leaks ...

MaX.

Meh, my Noctua D-14 is way louder than the X61 at the same load levels and keeps it quieter.  I think the warranty on it is 7 years or something so I will have a new/updated computer by then.

I can see right in the side of the window while I am sitting at my desk!  It is important that it looks good inside to me!

Quote from: gdubmx on August 06, 2014, 04:53:56 PM
Update: Added Pics.
Intel i5 4690k devils canyon.
MSI geforce gtx 770 4gb.
Asrock z97 extreme 4.
Corsair vengeance lp 8gb(2x4gb)
Corsair CX 750 PSU.
Samsung DVD rewriter.
Zalman z11 case.
Coolermaster hyper evo 212
Note: i might eventually get a modular PSU as opposed to a non-modular. I used less that half of all the cables which makes it a it of a pain for cable management. all in all tho im happy with my virgin build. :)

Modular or semi modular is the only way to go, looks good though.  That is a beast of a graphics card, I have a EVGA 770SC 4gb in my home computer and it is awesome.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: moto28 on August 09, 2014, 05:02:47 AM
The new comp.
(http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w599/connormoto28/IMG_1809_zps680c1800.jpg) (http://s1331.photobucket.com/user/connormoto28/media/IMG_1809_zps680c1800.jpg.html)
(http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w599/connormoto28/IMG_1801_zpsdb87a221.jpg) (http://s1331.photobucket.com/user/connormoto28/media/IMG_1801_zpsdb87a221.jpg.html)
(http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w599/connormoto28/IMG_1810_zps9877ab80.jpg) (http://s1331.photobucket.com/user/connormoto28/media/IMG_1810_zps9877ab80.jpg.html)
(http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w599/connormoto28/IMG_1811_zps8570ae48.jpg) (http://s1331.photobucket.com/user/connormoto28/media/IMG_1811_zps8570ae48.jpg.html)
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: bearded4glory on August 10, 2014, 03:43:55 AM
Looks good Moto28.  Wasn't to hard to build and get setup right?

For the love of god reroute those fan cables so they aren't detracting from all your hard work!
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: moto28 on August 10, 2014, 06:29:41 PM
It actually did take quite a while to get all setup but it was just completely stupid mistakes. It took me about 2 hours to find the power button.

The power button is that giant glowing rubber X and i had no idea and i was just pressing the reset button wondering why it wouldnt turn on haha. I remember i felt like crying and the i looked it up and it was the X button and i was just like well worth a try. And i hit the button and lights and fans started spinning and i felt like shouting leeroy jenkins.

One of the happiest moments ever haha and then my cpu fan wasny spinning but i fixed that aswell.

But yes i rewired the fan cables
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: bearded4glory on August 10, 2014, 07:18:05 PM
Hahaha, that is classic.  Every time I put a CPU in I get all freaked out that I am going to screw it up but nothing else bothers me.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: moto28 on August 10, 2014, 08:00:09 PM
The cpu installation was the easiest thing i did  ;D

I installed it within 15 seconds and took barely any precaution i was mostly worried about motherboard installation
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: GDUBMX on August 10, 2014, 08:49:49 PM
Quote from: moto28 on August 10, 2014, 08:00:09 PM
The cpu installation was the easiest thing i did  ;D

I installed it within 15 seconds and took barely any precaution i was mostly worried about motherboard installation
lol I feel bearded's pain, the cpu you would be easy as your using a stock cooler with pre-installed thermal paste. For us who choose to use performance coolers its a lot sketchier lol. You need to apply your own paste and be super steady and careful... I fear I made need to do mine again.
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: MotoRogers499 on August 10, 2014, 10:59:28 PM
bearded4glory my brother has the exact same case as you haha
Title: Re: New Computer.
Post by: bearded4glory on August 11, 2014, 01:07:10 AM
I don't care about the cooler just if I put the CPU in the wrong direction or have a little static on my hands I can fry it.  It just sketches me out cuz its one of the most expensive pieces but can be damaged easily.