Due to a buggy/non working server replay function we are unable to record the series ourselves.
We are looking for a dedicated guy with the capabilities to record 16 motos in 1080p 60fps.
Ideally you need to still join the races but spectate in freeroam to get some good footage of battles, passes, riders, crashes etc. You need to be setup with your replay controls so you don't have to keep opening the hud to change cameras etc and be smooth with your camera controlling. You want to make it as editless as possible really.
Would be awesome if you have the following.
Good pc. With good ram, video card, etc.
Fast Internet.
Video editing skills and software to compress etc.
Bonus: Adobe premier skill to create animated overlay like you see on TV.
Once both motos are recorded, you will need to upload and send to me so I can add overlay (non animated.. Unfortunately) I don't have the skill)
I will even throw you some cash, heck I'm sure if it's good enough we could all chip in and bump it up.
Would be helping us out massively! I would so it myself but I missed the last series and really wanna race this series, plus I don't have lots of time to spend learning premier etc.
Really appreciate it guys and who knows where this could take us. I already have sponsors on board and as this thing rolls forward it could gain more momentum and get bigger.
Might be missing something but didn't MaX release some kind of race overlay?
I've asked Kristoffer AKA Storken AKA Mx Simulator EMF streamer if he's interested. Waiting for an answer. I don't really think he'll do it though, he's a busy man as well and I don't think he even has Mx Bikes. Worth a try tho!
Quote from: TheFatController on September 22, 2016, 08:56:52 AM
Might be missing something but didn't MaX release some kind of race overlay?
Ah I can't believe I missed that, did he release it? Is there a link?
http://forum.mx-bikes.com/index.php?topic=180.msg17991#msg17991
Is that it? Or did I get that wrong???
And of course, if tracks used in the championship have working replay cams they should be used along with selecting a rider to follow for streaming, as it takes the 'fly around looking for riders' aspect to a minimum..
I was also planning on releasing a 2k version of mxbc compound as I think it's the only one in the list with 4k textures, so I might work on cams for it too..
If anyone wants to make cams for other tracks that might be missing them feel free to, you only need the game track to make cams you don't need the project folder :)
Ah no way, can't believe I missed that. I was waiting for a separate thread. Didn't realise that it was gonna be a max hud mod. Awesome will check this out later. Thanks alot fats! And yes those 2k mxbc textures would be awesome
Storken won't be able to stream for us.
He doesn't have the game and he has limited data, so he won't be able to upload long good quality 1080p videos.
I asked him if he knows anyone else who might want to stream.
Yup, just checked out the PiBoSo board and MaX is saying - basically:
It only works on live replays. It doesn't work if you scroll 'back in time' and it doesn't work on loaded replays..
So, for live streaming coupled with using replay cams it should work a treat..
I've not checked it out though, are there any customisable elements? You know, like the way the helmet overlay works, or is it all preset in layout / design?
Thanks Sandy. Badstar would be a good fit, but he's a bad ass rider so he'll want them goggles too
Does it mind if the streamer isn't a native English speaker?
Any race, religion, nationality. Do you have to talk? Unless you wanted to commentate the races? That would be cool.
Quote from: gdubmx on September 22, 2016, 01:06:31 PM
Any race, religion, nationality. Do you have to talk? Unless you wanted to commentate the races? That would be cool.
In that case we need an italian doing the commentary. Would be amazing :D
ah shiet, this sounds so fun! If I knew i would make all races I'd be down to do it, but sadly i wont be able to make that promise :(
Quote from: TheFatController on September 22, 2016, 11:41:11 AM
Yup, just checked out the PiBoSo board and MaX is saying - basically:
It only works on live replays. It doesn't work if you scroll 'back in time' and it doesn't work on loaded replays..
So, for live streaming coupled with using replay cams it should work a treat..
I've not checked it out though, are there any customisable elements? You know, like the way the helmet overlay works, or is it all preset in layout / design?
There are only a few widget that work in replays / live replays: not 100% sure but in the version that is out (2.0.2) it may be only the "speed" widget.
The next version (with MXB beta5) will allow to have also the track map and the standings.
There're no customisable elements at the moment (except the usual stuff: the widget options, background yes/no, some colors etc).
That's weird Max because I was using the track map and standings feature last night with your latest plug in?
Quote from: gdubmx on September 23, 2016, 09:54:38 AM
That's weird Max because I was using the track map and standings feature last night with your latest plug in?
Oh OK, maybe it was the other way around then: map and standings already available (in replays/spectating I mean) and the Speed widget was not.
The Speed widget will be able to show speed, gear, throttle and brake of the bike you're on (or the bike you're spectating/watching)so in principle it could be made look like what you usually see on TV (at least, in motogp, for mx I'm not sure it's relevant).
Is it useful for streaming gdub?
Quote from: Sandbiter on September 22, 2016, 11:38:30 AM
... He doesn't have the game...
I have 3 copies of MXB so that shouldn't be the problem :)
Bump. We could really do with some help with this. Anyone interested? Would be doing a huge favour, plus you get paid via PayPal.
Speak to DoubleDragonCC on the GP Bikes forum. He might be able to help :)
I am busy as shit but will try and help.
Give me a day to get my head into it and should be no problem.
DD
Thank you DD, really appreciate it.! it doesn't have to be live mate. We can edit it to perhaps add commentary for a laugh. It's an 8 races series here are the details and dates
Round 1 - JS7 Compound - National Loop: October 15th; 8 Laps - 40 Max Gates
Round 2 - Maryland: October 22nd; 10 Laps - 20 Max Gates
Round 3 - Paleta: October 29th; 12 Laps - 24 Max Gates
Round 4 - Archview (dependent on Southwick release): November 12th; 8 Laps - 20 Max Gates
Round 5 - TNMX: November 19th; 15 Laps - 28 Max Gates
Round 6 - Glen Helen: December 3rd; 8 Laps - 42 Max Gates
Round 7 - MXBC Compound: December 10th; 10 Laps - 25 Max Gates
Round 8 - Winchester: December 17th; 10 Laps - 40 Max Gates
If you need help with track downloads, bike downloads, gear downloads then maybe geo can put together a giant pack with all the bits you need mate.
If there is any possiblity to get a hold of the demo files after the races i would love to do something :)
I will defo need all tracks and bikes and paints as I got very little as I am busy with my controllers and GPB so any help will be great. I will have to check dates as I have a lot of hospital appointments. I need time of day too for UK?
I will try my best and would rather do live and commentate.
DD
Sounds awesome DD. Really appreciate it mate. We shall fix up a pack for you tonight and teams will add their skin packs over the next 2 weeks (hopefully) if they don't then they will have the generic stuff. Are you on steam at all mate? Could do with chatting in private to iron out a few things. Cheers mate.
Your only challenge is to avoid the space-theme vocabulary.
No "this guy just skyrocketted after a core.exe".
No "and we have a lift off!"
No "and it looks like he's coming back to earth side ways... hah no that's he netcode".
Good luck.
I run 3 GPBOC servers and a teamspeak server you can contact me on
Server IP: 82.43.148.211 user password yougetin
All servers run between 10AM and Midnight UK time.
DD
Very kind of you to help out DD :)
Thanks DD, I shall compile a pack for you tonight so you can start getting used to the tracks and stuff mate.
8PM Saturdays!!!! Thats beer drinkin time lol. Not a problem as far as I can think.
I will make an overview for the stream advertising EKS and MXB too.
Heres a few live streams from GPBOC racing to give you an idea how I do it. I will need to sign on for online racing and et used to MXB style races.
https://www.youtube.com/v/K_MX4ntFIbU
https://www.youtube.com/v/-3L08lkskaI
I now have a new BM8000 Mic and C920 webcam so will be better audio and pic in pic. If you can arrange any boxes for EKS to have behind me would be good to advertise them too. Will do my best for you guys but it takes time to learn riders names and to know who is who.
DD
Hopefully live recordings will not turn out as bad as this replay -
https://www.youtube.com/v/T3VoIlMLSkE
I upped he internet on my servers to 200MB/200MB for speed but not sure what the MXB server is like will have to test once I sign up for online in MXB
DD
In fairness teeds that was one of the worse gtx events for lag, although let's just hope that we don't get any of that freezing where everyone disappears for 10 minutes..:(
We had s
Tbh, unless it is completely horribly coded, bandwidth doesn't have much to do with warping / freezes - especially with such a limited amount of moving objects and information linked to each one of them. Latency and packet loss however, does.
But it appears the problem is more code-related than anything curently. Out of curiosity, I'd be really interested in what kind of information goes through the server and how it is formated and treated. You have what, bike XYZ+angle, same for rider relative to the bike, speed, fork and shock travel value, steering angle, wheel rotation speed, rpms, gear. Rest can be done client side, unless you want to make it hack-proof. Then you probably have to sample this what, 50/s? and interpolate as needed?
I cocked up my online account as I have forgotten the first name I used and need to sort it out first.
DD<<<<<<<OLD FART
Quote from: Asdrael on September 29, 2016, 03:30:26 PM
Tbh, unless it is completely horribly coded, bandwidth doesn't have much to do with warping / freezes - especially with such a limited amount of moving objects and information linked to each one of them. Latency and packet loss however, does.
But it appears the problem is more code-related than anything curently. Out of curiosity, I'd be really interested in what kind of information goes through the server and how it is formated and treated. You have what, bike XYZ+angle, same for rider relative to the bike, speed, fork and shock travel value, steering angle, wheel rotation speed, rpms, gear. Rest can be done client side, unless you want to make it hack-proof. Then you probably have to sample this what, 50/s? and interpolate as needed?
Interpolation sounds easy but is normally not enough: you can't interpolate between a known state and a state you don't know yet :)
Usually you have something more like a predictive model corrected by the new data coming in. Most likely you don't need the entire bike state vector, i.e. the predictive model is simpler than the bike physics model. As an example, states related to chassis flexibility may not be exchanged between the client and the server (and hence between the sever and the other clients).
You just need anything that is obviously visible (bike position and attitude, steering angle, position of the suspension, ...) plus whatever the client needs to predict the state in between data packets (this is for the other bikes of course the local bike is fully simulated, non need for prediction) and whatever you need for sound (RPM, throttle position). Gear is currently not passed between the server and client (but will be in next beta for both GPB and MXB).
As UDP is used, server and client side you have to deal with missing packets and packets arriving in the wrong order.
And I doubt PiBoSo is willing to document the exact format exchanged by client and server :)
Quote from: Asdrael on September 29, 2016, 03:30:26 PM
Rest can be done client side, unless you want to make it hack-proof.
In fact the only part you need to make hack-proof is the other one (i.e. client --> server) as in the sense server--> client you would only hack the state of the other bikes on a specific client (i.e. the server would still "see" the correct state).
Good points - by interpolation I meant to fill the gaps between state updates and framerates, but ofc you need a predictive model. With a high exchange rate like 50/s, something linear is ultra easy and probably 99% accurate.
But still curious to see how it goes here ;)
Running some test laps since Geo upped the buffer size, if anyone wants to join?
Quote from: Asdrael on September 29, 2016, 08:01:25 PM
With a high exchange rate like 50/s, something linear is ultra easy and probably 99% accurate.
50/s means one update every 20ms ... first sight seems a bit fast ...
Okay got my id sorted but get bike mismatch and I do not have time to go through how many years of bikes to find whats wrong. I NEED a FULL bike set for MX1 and MX2 at least to get on GTX servers
I got the DL pack from the PM earlier but something is missing???
DD
Geo, things seem pretty good on the server, I played with I think 4 people, although I think they were all in / around Europe.
Seemed generally fine, bit of slight glitching from other riders near the ground, but no massive rubber banding or freezing, really nothing major :)
Quote from: geofanatec on September 29, 2016, 10:18:21 PMTFC:
So it was better than normal? Or didn't notice a big change?
Hard to say without a) more people than 4 on one stretch of track and b) people from across the Atlantic.
But for 4, it seemed pretty solid. Dare I say if we had collisions on there wouldn't have been any problems (not that I'm advocating collisions ;))
Not just RMZ and did full delete of bikes and added full set but still mismatch
Will do full install in the morning
DD
ah, its probably my tracks mate. as i had the beta versions its probably due to that.
here are the links
http://www.mxb-central.com/thursday-night-motocross/
http://www.mxb-central.com/glen-helen-2015/
http://www.mxb-central.com/mxbc-compound-v1-3/
http://www.mxb-central.com/paleta-raceway-v2-2/
https://mega.nz/#!IBw1XTDJ!rtKWaoxrhqBQ2ZUsN19fSarHgnI4qULxdsRbLIslqhY
https://www.mediafire.com/?fye39e1ctoa0khh
Fresh install of beta4, the tracks you told me and only added the bikes you said and get bike mismatch still. Deleted the bikes and still get mismatch WTF
DD
EDIT: I need a DL of a COPY of the bikes on the server.
I will also need rider stuff or the kits will be default!!!
Hmm.. Pain in the arse!
Geo will have the server side stuff and he's in oklahoma so will be about later on.
I think our team has its bikes and gear ready for upload so we will do ours tonight or tomorrow.
Ill put a post up in the gtx board to encourage the entries so far to create and upload their stuff also.
Here is a link to the promo Rd1 video we did if you want to use this in some way mate.
https://youtu.be/TJxwmqscXEE
Sorry mate but its like being a total noob in MXB as there is so much to have to have and I am REAL busy as I got 3 systems to build and do GPB too!!!
Thanks for all you guys helping me sort this out
DD
EDIT: Great intro, I am shit at that kind of thing doing it quickly but will try and sort something out or if there is the original video that I could edit i Sony Vega Pro13 it would help.
Thanks m8
I have to remake all 3 servers for GPB first as beta9 just got released and will get right back on this when done tomorrow. Guess my date is off lol
DD
So deleted EVERYTHING MXB from my system
Downloaded beta4 and tracks and bikes as you said and still fucking bike mismatch!!!!
7 times dude!!!!
I dont get it.
DD
Maybe it's my track pack I gave you mate. I get sent slot of Beth's and never clean out my folders.. Perhaps geo can compile a clean track pack for download. Maybe that throws up a bike mismatch? Plus I'm pretty sure geo may of updated the bike pack too.
THanks m8
Never had tracks cause a bike error so it must be ONE bike lol
Or if someone who races copies all their stuff and can upload it?
DD
Quote from: geofanatec on October 05, 2016, 07:09:53 PM
Bike pack sent is exactly from server (even with default bikes). No way this shouldn't work.
Hmm.......is the "bikes.pkz" still in the main MXB folder?
If not, then this may be the issue
Yep its there I aint new to mods lol
DD
I got all those bro
DD
Ok so I did an old GPB trick and extracted the pkz file too and that did the trick. Normally dont have to extract the bike pkz, at least not in GPB.
Now I need rider kit to and all paints.
DD
Just make sure that the bikes and all paints are clearly named or in folders to know where they go I aint no MX boy lol.
DD
If geo builds the folder structure into the zip (hopefully) it can just be extracted to the root.
WTF...............................Now I get bike mismatch again and have the set you sent me, first time said mismatch RMZ 250 2016, so went and selected that bike then tried to join again and just said bike mismatch
If I use the set you said is from the server why do I keep getting mismatches with them????
DD
Well no wonder!!!
Got it working, got online after 10 mins crashed and then MXB would not start, 15th or 20th install and is working for now.
I need you guys to practice so I can set up OBS to record n stream BUT.....................
The track cams suck big time!!!
There is no real track cams as in GPB that follow a rider round the track and make it impossible to get a good kind of TV style coverage!!! How am I supposed to cover a race if most cams are miles from the track or in a barn???
DD
Quote from: geofanatec on October 12, 2016, 10:37:34 PM
PiBoSo or Snapped (or anyone) does the camera file transfer from server to joined users like the race data does? If so, I can make a camera file for server.
If not, will a "modded" camera file on DDs PC keep him from being able to join?
Answer no to both, I'm 99.99% sure.
Dont mean to rude btw just GPB cams are always good for TV style and used to it.
I will need practice before the race bro lol
DD
Yeah the js7 are great cams but ain't amazing for the TV style stuff mate. I can hand on heart say that Glen Helen is perfect for it as I made the cams purposely from a TV perspective :)
Sorry, I don't ever really bother to make cams for my tracks.. Never considered streaming!
Thanks guys
Just want to make it the best l can for you and also advertise Piboso product
DD
I guess it died before it really started. Due to the TERRIBLE quality in replay with bikes juddering and flickering so badly and hanging for ages that it was not a possibility to stream. I worked all week to try and get this working to no avail as the netcode would not play along with us lol.
Oh well guess we all wait in MXB for netcode too lol.
Sorry but I did try.
DD
Thank you for all the work !!
Thanks DD, you´re the man! :)
I will set up a server later to keep for MXB ok
DD
Thanks a lot for trying to set this up.
And sorry for the let down with the JS7 cams - I did them, but I have to admit I am not good at it and I didn't have the patience to figure out why sometimes cameras were "crossing lanes" etc. So thanks for updating these ;)