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Title: Doubledragoncc - Handle bar & foot controls?!
Post by: BadStar on October 19, 2016, 01:34:38 AM
Has anyone or DD himself used these with mx-bikes? Is that what you have teeds?

I'm impressed..jealous and dreaming of my own set (obviously)
Title: Re: Doubledragoncc - Handle bar & foot controls?!
Post by: BadStar on October 19, 2016, 01:37:30 AM
Yea me too! Would be so fun with mx-bikes or any bike game really
Title: Re: Doubledragoncc - Handle bar & foot controls?!
Post by: 𝖙𝖋𝖈 on October 19, 2016, 01:50:36 AM
DDs controller plus oculus rift must be amazing! Too bad he hates VR lol
Title: Re: Doubledragoncc - Handle bar & foot controls?!
Post by: teeds on October 19, 2016, 09:45:37 AM
Quote from: BadStar on October 19, 2016, 01:34:38 AM
Has anyone or DD himself used these with mx-bikes? Is that what you have teeds?

I'm impressed..jealous and dreaming of my own set (obviously)

You not seen this Badstar?

https://www.youtube.com/v/VsjqKSxf1lI
Title: Re: Doubledragoncc - Handle bar & foot controls?!
Post by: doubledragoncc on October 19, 2016, 10:13:40 AM
I have tried it but made no video yet. Here is an old video(sorry its not MXB) of my first attempt in MXGP using the old Hs1. Hs2 is far better.

https://www.youtube.com/v/_1026IHIJu4

I use buttons for rider lean, but have used thumbsticks on the bars too before. I am going for the gyro sensor on my body way in the future as it is more realistic to actually use your body.

I dont think teeds builds to sell and ship where as I do so I have kept the size of my systems down. His idea is great but bulky for shipping.

DD
Title: Re: Doubledragoncc - Handle bar & foot controls?!
Post by: BadStar on October 19, 2016, 03:56:58 PM
Yea Teeds, I have seen it. That's how I knew you had one but it didn't look like DD's...and I figured his is the only one that is for sale. Your (teeds) vid was what originally grabbed my attention back in beta 3.

Title: Re: Doubledragoncc - Handle bar & foot controls?!
Post by: BadStar on October 19, 2016, 05:04:14 PM
DD.. with these modern mx games, I wonder what the best/affordable solution is for rider lean?

Like teeds, thumb stick on bar or body gyro?
Title: Re: Doubledragoncc - Handle bar & foot controls?!
Post by: 𝖙𝖋𝖈 on October 19, 2016, 05:31:32 PM
Quote from: BadStar on October 19, 2016, 05:04:14 PM
DD.. with these modern mx games, I wonder what the best/affordable solution is for rider lean?

Like teeds, thumb stick on bar or body gyro?

Tilty chair ;D
Title: Re: Doubledragoncc - Handle bar & foot controls?!
Post by: teeds on October 19, 2016, 06:01:43 PM
Trouble is when you grab the bars you only have one thumb to use as you can't twist throttle and use the right hands thumb simultaneously. So a hat switch on the left thumb works well but I wanted sit, lean left/right/forward/back, that's five buttons with one thumb which isn't possible with my hat switch. So yea a tilt seat or tilt foot controls would probably work or a hat switch with a press button too (maybe DDs rig has that?). I did setup an EdTracker unit strapped to my chest to detect physical lean as a joystick but was a bit messy, and although it worked I don't really need it with the bars doing front/back lean.
Title: Re: Doubledragoncc - Handle bar & foot controls?!
Post by: BadStar on October 19, 2016, 06:18:33 PM
I actually like how you have your front/back lean built in to the bars... can it also be built to lean l/r?  Like a flight joystick
Title: Re: Doubledragoncc - Handle bar & foot controls?!
Post by: teeds on October 19, 2016, 06:26:43 PM
Maybe, but not sure if it'll work as you kind of already have the bars pivoting on that plane, could be a bit tricky to use and not get unintentional lean of the rider or bike, if you see what I mean.
Title: Re: Doubledragoncc - Handle bar & foot controls?!
Post by: doubledragoncc on October 19, 2016, 07:23:07 PM
Teeds, try the edTracker on your shoulder as it is the only place that gives the most motion of your body and NOT your head. You can adjust sensitivity to compensate for lack of movement I am sure.

I am just still looking for the right chip as most are under 5 volts an want it to be as cheap and simple as possible but still be reliable.

DD
Title: Re: Doubledragoncc - Handle bar & foot controls?!
Post by: BadStar on October 19, 2016, 07:28:16 PM
Ahh.. your right teeds, I forgot about the handlebars turning on a similar plane
Title: Re: Doubledragoncc - Handle bar & foot controls?!
Post by: Ruubs on October 19, 2016, 07:35:27 PM
I'm actually thinking about making something for myself. I probably will never start it, but if I start it it'll probably never get finished.

Anway.. I'm thinking of using a joystick. You know, the ones used for flight sims etc. By attaching a stick to it, you'd already have rider F/B lean and steering (I never use rider L/R lean, so not having that isn't an issue). The hard part would be getting the throttle working. I was thinking about plugging in the joystick and a seperate xbox360 controller. This controller could then handle the throttle and front brake since it has triggers (the joystick I have doesnt have any triggers, only buttons). For the clutch, up/down shift and rear brake I could use the buttons from either the joystick or the xbox360 controller. The only problem I have is that I haven't gotten any experience with this stuff. How would I make it so that when I twist the throttle on the handlebars (aka stick) that the trigger would pull in on my xbox360 controller?

I'm thinking about solutions now, but it's all just vague for me at the moment.

Dreams, dreams, dreams...
Title: Re: Doubledragoncc - Handle bar & foot controls?!
Post by: BadStar on October 19, 2016, 07:41:57 PM
lol sand, I actually did this. My flight stick also twist like a throttle.. it was fun but if you add a stick to it then you have to custom wire the throttle etc

I mounted my flight stick laying on it side so the stick was like a throttle and set controls according... goofy but fun, no way to get "fast" though.
Title: Re: Doubledragoncc - Handle bar & foot controls?!
Post by: 𝖙𝖋𝖈 on October 19, 2016, 09:26:22 PM
Teeds was untouchable back in beta 2 on his bars!  Haven't ridden much with him recently but I'm guessing not much has changed.. It looks like a solid setup.
Title: Re: Doubledragoncc - Handle bar & foot controls?!
Post by: Ruubs on October 19, 2016, 10:08:35 PM
Quote from: BadStar on October 19, 2016, 07:41:57 PM
lol sand, I actually did this. My flight stick also twist like a throttle.. it was fun but if you add a stick to it then you have to custom wire the throttle etc

I mounted my flight stick laying on it side so the stick was like a throttle and set controls according... goofy but fun, no way to get "fast" though.
Hm alright. I'll still see what I can do. I've some good ideas! :D
Title: Re: Doubledragoncc - Handle bar & foot controls?!
Post by: doubledragoncc on October 20, 2016, 01:26:14 PM
I am still thinking about selling just my MTE units to allow folks to build their own systems with less tech knowledge needed for connecting throttle and levers via cables.

Below is my MTE units for throttle front brake and clutch that you simply connect to any cable just making sure the cable free play is the right length(real simple).

(http://www.isrtv.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2016_04/20160407_164825.thumb.jpg.d7944588d76b879e85d0f545e8358191.jpg)

These I mount on the bars backplate

(http://www.isrtv.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2016_04/20160407_170425.thumb.jpg.7206f6b92dea64df9970344f0a30fa39.jpg)

And then make the cables using screw on nipples to get the right length.

(http://www.isrtv.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2016_04/20160415_105346.jpg.f587a7907a79dbb52ac1dc6ca0f09722.jpg)

All motorcycle parts for 22mm bars work as long as they have cables. I am working on hydraulic units too.

Then I print a custom cover

(http://www.isrtv.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2016_04/20160429_191943.thumb.jpg.df6627cecbb3819a2a18dfe4783badf7.jpg)

To make it look better

(http://www.isrtv.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2016_04/20160430_134805.thumb.jpg.690644f71200a82ae13ca9d5b44f7c83.jpg)

I use high quality heavy duty P260 Vishay potentiometers only.

These make building a system so much easier and the rear GSXR1000RR rear brake is bolted directly to the rearsets.

DD



Title: Re: Doubledragoncc - Handle bar & foot controls?!
Post by: 𝖙𝖋𝖈 on October 20, 2016, 02:08:53 PM
How much would a complete system cost just out of interest?
Title: Re: Doubledragoncc - Handle bar & foot controls?!
Post by: doubledragoncc on October 20, 2016, 06:06:46 PM
Out of respect to Piboso I do not do any business on the forum.

For more info please contact me directly at doubledragoncc@yahoo.com

Thanks

DD