I am sick of this game. sick of pibs doing NOTHING. Sayin' nothing. I'm sick of all of you guys, TFC, Gdub, Asdrael, Paco, Jose, Philian, who just don't give a shit about all the work Geo put together for us and for this game by not showing on any races.
We all have excuses... I said no to a family dinner, i said no to a friend birthday for race.
Because most of the time if i'm not here there is no race. i mean... 5 riders at least right ? yesterday we were 6. It was crazy lol.
I'm sick of Training all fucking week for a 5 guys race. All in kawaski because the ONLY other team of the game decided to make another monster kawi team (LOL).
i'm sick of Bj cryin like a bitch each time we touch eachother. i'm sick of this fucking shitty netcode. I'm sick of randomly fall everytime i push the bike.
i'm sick of riding like a grandma to stay clean. i'm sick of the lack of change or even ANY news.
I'm done. I leave. I'll be back for the next beta if we have something else than a fucking nac nac animation.
Fck it.
Stone, I'll let that one slide mate as I can see you are frustrated.
At the end of the day though all this frustrating you have towards all of us stems from a single source. Sadly they chose to develop 4 games at once and do 1 huge update a year as opposed to hotfixing which is alot more popular.
Tbh I do take a little offense by what you said about not giving a shit about Geo, we've been Web friends since this games inception and have helped each other out with all sorts of things. There is alot of stuff that happens behind the scenes which isn't always public knowledge.
We all have lives, jobs, families, commitments and sometimes mate just don't have time to sit down at 10pm on a Saturday night to play a computer game. You gotta understand that a lot of us have been there and done that with this game and this development team and to be honest you just go round in circles.
Alot of us feel when there is a super stable product to invest in training and serious energy then we will commit but currently playing beta 6 online is like Mario motocross with all the bouncing about its a joke.
The radio silence from Piboso is pretty shit as well if I'm honest, the obsession for steams Krp release affects us, gpb,wrs guys also. We all suffer for the greater good I guess if that's what you wanna call it.
Personally, Piboso don't take offence to this but your absolute 100% biggest downfall is having 4 projects going at once. Where you started a road sim first then some of the way through you had the idea of implementing those found ideas into a new game.. Then another new game.. Then another new game.. Honestly where does it stop? Kinds reminds me of myself or someone with adhd that has a shirt attention span or when things get tough you decide to back off and change direction.
Stone, you are still cool man and I'll have all the time in the world for you always. I can see this is just frustrating for you and you don't mean any real harm by this post. Just the #pibosofrustration gets to us in different ways.
Edit; I guess we'll see you back sometime next winter mate LOL. Take care man, and PS I'm still putting that track together for you.
Quote from: GDUBMX on July 09, 2017, 01:53:34 PM
Stone, you are still cool man and I'll have all the time in the world for you always. I can see this is just frustrating for you and you don't mean any real harm by this post. Just the #pibosofrustration gets to us in different ways.
Edit; I guess we'll see you back sometime next winter mate LOL. Take care man, and PS I'm still putting that track together for you.
Of course i'm not mad at you or tfc or even Chris et Bj.... i'm just sick of all of it. I can take it aymore. it's hard to say it in english. Just sayin' i'm done... i stop playing this shit until we have a playable game. all the time i put in it just don't worse it. i tried my best to push this community, just as you guys. (even if you don't show up at races. I never made a track for exemple... or a nice youtube channel)
Anyway, i don't hate you guys. Even you Bj, even you Chris. I hate the situation. and the more i play the game, the more i hate it, and piboso. So i prefere to stop playin for now.
And don't worrie. We keep in touch on steam guys, can't wait for the track dude ;)
;)
The things you're frustrated about pretty much covers why I'm not playing right now. I've got two 4 year old girls and every other week have to wake up at 4:30 am for work all week.
If I join a race on a Sunday night and something goes wrong, I haven't got time to try again.
Due to my lack of free time I can't make as much as I used to but I have a finished textured version of 2016 Unadilla I made a month or so back, but I haven't done objects because I'm burnt out on making things for MXB right now because of the lack of community. It's all very well assuming I can't be bothered to show up to races but there you go, I sometimes feel the same way about feeling like the only one who keeps making tracks.. Which is why I stop every now and then and take a break.
Along with a few others I've been here since long before the first beta dropped and have seen this situation at least once a beta if not more regularly. Take a break from MXB, go quiet, whatever you need to do.
Quote from: TFC on July 09, 2017, 04:59:50 PMI sometimes feel the same way about feeling like the only one who keeps making tracks.. Which is why I stop every now and then and take a break.
Hi Fats :)
I have to admit I haven't released much. That's because I kinda hate my own tracks.
I should go back and play my AX track which I made before the first beta was even released again. Might be ride-able now.
i miss the first days of B4 and B5. Racing was awesome... the serie before was awesome. Battles were crazy with Sandy, phili, jose...
Quote from: geofanatec on July 09, 2017, 05:17:07 PM
and then Sandy started cheating and made everything for this series a disaster :) (do not take that seriously)
I could go on a 50cc but I really want that #1 pitboard.
I'm such a fan boy.. (gdub knows best, lol)
I fully understand the frustration in many ways but until I know I have been "duped by dev", I have to throw out the positives in defense.
If it wasn't for pibs, I wouldn't be enjoying the best mx game I have ever touched. I have seen it evolve and become better. It's a really really good beta and sim. Needs alot of work but, still. If pibs walked away today, along with the community; I know I could make my own shit tracks and still ride the best mx sim for at least a couple more years.
Once again, yes..frustration..
Once again, thank the game gods for pibs!
Once again, thank you geo and fats and everyone.
And btw, mxstylie from YouTube just joined the forum..so put on your best gear and a damn smile so he can make some sweet edits with us throwing whips (like a badass grandma #stonerider)
Stone, youre a fast rider, and have done a bit for the community, but this sounds like just another rant.... We all bought the game as is, and are really owed nothing, so I'm guessing youre either 14 or had a couple beers before writing this post (as I have in the past). But being the first in a new type of game can be frustrating, but I'd personally say just enjoy the ride or not post, cause this post just reflects back on you, as much as I may agree that updates need to come, the absence of online users is what speaks the loudest. Hopefully someday we'll sorta be the founders of an epic game, but you just kinda have to take the negative that come with being a founding member of an independent game. 8)
Well, same here, waiting for more development to put more time into the game...
the game is great but i´d really like to have a more active and looser rider, you cant push the bike because physics flops everywhere, i see the potential and i´m sure it will be a great game, i wish it could have a faster development :'(
Yes, I agree, I just think saying "I'm done" is a bit dramatic. Since there are really on 5-8 of us online, yes it gets frustrating, because there is really no backing besides the few of us, and I agree that each new implemented improvement should be released, rather than waiting 6 months to get more at once. But we all know it is what it is, and hopefully things will start progressing at a faster rate, because even Pib's say's this game is likely to be his golden egg, it would be nice to hear from him about the continued development of the game or what to expect in the near or distant future.
http://mxsimulator.com/order.html (http://mxsimulator.com/order.html)
Quote from: PizzaChet on July 11, 2017, 11:07:46 PM
http://mxsimulator.com/order.html (http://mxsimulator.com/order.html)
I wish it were that easy but that sim looks so fake/old the more I watch you-tube vids..
I know it is honestly one of the greatest mx'rs to ever exist and rightly so..
but damn, for 207..its just NO
Holy crap.. MXS is expensive!! :o
MXS is $40. And even though I like this game more, MXS physics are far more realistic. Most people who talk down on MXS just arent good enough to play it. But the creator and the fact he does not care about what people want and the games features are about 5 years behind are the main reasons I finally left that game. But hopefully people will continue to come from that community to this one, this game just needs to progress more. (especially netcode and physics problems.
It's like someone saying they're going to kill themselves. I was just showing him the way to the bridge. If I had a nickel for every time someone made an announcement that they're through, I'd have enough to go out and make a proper sim.
Quote from: NorCal 986 on July 12, 2017, 06:38:38 AM
MXS is $40. And even though I like this game more, MXS physics are far more realistic.
That's so wrong.
Whenever I get on MX Bikes it feels 100 times more realistic than MX Sim.
MX Bikes actually is a sim, MX Sim is all fake for as far as I know. MX Bikes uses all real forces etc. while MX Sim uses forces which feel right. Obviously MX Sim also has it's real forces etc, but way way less than MX Bikes and that's definitly noticable in the way it feels in comparison with real life.
IMO MX Sim is an incredible hard arcade motocross game. MX Bikes is a true sim. Sure there are lots of things still wrong with MX Bikes, like not being able to push it and wheelie through big sand rollers etc. but the overall feel is already way better. It's just a matter of time now before it's truly the best.
Quote from: NorCal 986 on July 12, 2017, 06:38:38 AMMost people who talk down on MXS just arent good enough to play it.
I've had the game since December 2009. I've played it hardcore, won European championships and got 2nd behind Dennis Fjeldberg a couple of years in the European outdoor and supercross series.
I'd say I'm good enough to play it. So I may talk it down. :)
Quote from: NorCal 986 on July 12, 2017, 06:38:38 AMMost people who talk down on MXS just arent good enough to play it.
Nope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eob4zwef0R4
http://forum.mxsimulator.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=66
and jlv sent me the game to test it when it wasnt on sale, 2007 i think it was.
while mxsim does some things right it feels like riding a rc bike, it´s fun, it´s dynamic and it´s rewarding, but is not a simulator by any means, just see the stupidly oversized tracks, the bikes can get a unusual amount of speed in almost no time, they are like drag cars hahaha and the lack of updates, dont get me started.
overall this game is so much better, i wish piboso wouldnt be making 4 games at once :(
Edit:
The guys at lcq studios are making some good progress, there´s some whip videos on facebook and it looks quite fun and responsive, and congratulations to Damo on the bike/shaders, great work mate!
So you're saying that you prefer the Russian lunar program to the American one? Forget the actual successes and prefer the one that hasn't really launched yet? Sounds legit.
oh no, i did enjoyed mx simulator for around 5 years and i still think that the game is a great one, i just wish it got further development to see where it could go, there´s some things that really bugged me like terrain deformation (was promised, was implemented once, never touched again), the rider that doesnt disengage from the bike, the rider not being able to lean left or right, the physics, while fun and active still needs tons of tweaking, etc.
Mx simulator did lots of things good and i´m always gratefull for the great times and community that we had, the terrain editor was a great starting point, the decals system for texturing was great, i liked the physics and overall was a awesome game.
i just feel that mx bikes has a more solid base and if piboso centered on developing this game only for a year this would be an amazing game, remember that this game is almost 3 years old, vs the 8+ years of mx simulator.
And dont forget that this game is priced at around half the price as mxsim, because is on beta, while mx sim released a full priced beta that, today is still missing important features.
Hope I didn't sound like I was hating on mx sim. Bc it deserves alot of respect.
The floating bikes is an issue with me (sorta moon like) and the speed is a bit too fast for my realism taste. Many utube vids show how fast and far u can float jumps. I just don't like that float stuff.
With that said. It really is one of the greatest to for the mx community so I really don't mean to be bashing.
Just not my taste after playing mxb. Which has very good gravity and speed.. nit picky I know
With that said: I have studied and flown the DCS a10c warthog for a while now..and not that a10a (If that means anything, lol) aka (i like the little details)
Fair enough to both of you! I just hate seeing irrational statements formed out of frustration. It's easy to cloud reality with a pinch of hope and optimism for one thing when you are frustrated with another. Kinda like politics!
Quote from: PizzaChet on July 12, 2017, 09:01:53 PM
Fair enough to both of you! I just hate seeing irrational statements formed out of frustration. It's easy to cloud reality with a pinch of hope and optimism for one thing when you are frustrated with another. Kinda like politics!
Indeed
As someone who's never played MXS past the demo I don't want to judge, but I tried it years ago hoping for my next mx fix and was disappointed. MXB ticks all the boxes for me so it's worth waiting for. I knew what I was getting in to from day one, it's just a shame that only a handful of people really knew what buying into the beta meant. We've lost so many good community members especially right after beta 1 it's unreal, but I'm glad to see the community build again and get stronger with every beta. Keep holding on it will be worth it!
To be blunt Fats, I was disappointed by having to pay for so little, such incomplete content after having the demo for so long. You sure want to play the long game, don't ya?
P.S. I'm deferring my install of either MXB or MXS after building a new computer because A: that folder sync deal is a hassle. and B: I'm shitty enough at both sims to wait.
I might be a different case to most though, as I'm way more interested in modding over racing.
Quote from: PizzaChet on July 12, 2017, 11:05:05 PM
To be blunt Fats, I was disappointed by having to pay for so little, such incomplete content after having the demo for so long.
mxb:
8 tracks 4 bikes
mxs:
12 tracks 8 bikes
but come on, compare these:
(http://mxsimulator.com/screenshots/ss28.jpg)
(http://mx-bikes.com/screens/mx-bikes_beta3_screenshot01.jpg)
Mxs is nothing without the community, mx bikes at least comes with some quality content stock.
i just wish modding mxb would be less tedious, having to compile the freaking track over and over sucks and is so slow :(
I wish the MXS tracks could easily be converted to MXB. But the only thing that really bugs me about MXB physics is the roll limit. You cant lean very far until you hit a berm or rut, and in real life that obviously is not the case. It makes it weird to judge corner speed cause you cant lean very much until you hit banking.
Done moving and finally got my comp plugged in yesterday. Now just waiting on my internet connection, should be one week away. So stop bitching Stone ;D
haha asdrael are you german?! :D
cant wait till the next update will come out and there are a few weeks where you see some ppl online and because of the mxb hype some new stuff.. :)