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Title: Does leaning actually help you turn?
Post by: CSchmied986 on July 30, 2018, 05:54:42 AM
Is it just me, or does anyone else think that leaning does not affect cornering? I would think if you leaned into a corner you could turn sharper, but that does not seem to be the case.  ???
Title: Re: Does leaning actually help you turn?
Post by: GDUBMX on July 30, 2018, 02:25:43 PM
Nope leaning doesn't do anything, even weighting the outside peg doesn't really do anything. I was recently teaching someone how to ride in mxb and told them to just use the rider left and right lean for controlling the bike in the air and for scrubbing etc. Its not needed on ground
Title: Re: Does leaning actually help you turn?
Post by: Wedgewood on July 30, 2018, 07:24:26 PM
I've found that they do indeed help you turn,  leaning towards the outside will give you much more traction coming out of the turn than not doing so and will also keep the bike a bit more stable.  Just like IRL the difference isn't huge until you're riding at an advanced level, then you'll notice laptimes will get lower as you master body position.

Since stability is now set at 100% by default, it may be overriding certain lean inputs in order to keep the rider more stable.
Title: Re: Does leaning actually help you turn?
Post by: CSchmied986 on July 31, 2018, 09:19:30 AM
I've tried both leaning into corners, leaning forward, and not leaning at all, but I've noticed no change in speed at all. I just don't get how some people (one in particular) can go like 6 seconds a lap faster. I feel like I push as hard as possible for how much I can turn. But obviously physics among other things are still a serious problem for this game.
Title: Re: Does leaning actually help you turn?
Post by: iNsane | WW on July 31, 2018, 12:14:46 PM
Quote from: NorCal 986 on July 31, 2018, 09:19:30 AM
I've tried both leaning into corners, leaning forward, and not leaning at all, but I've noticed no change in speed at all. I just don't get how some people (one in particular) can go like 6 seconds a lap faster. I feel like I push as hard as possible for how much I can turn. But obviously physics among other things are still a serious problem for this game.

*cough* Sandy *cough*
Title: Re: Does leaning actually help you turn?
Post by: Wedgewood on July 31, 2018, 03:42:06 PM
There is a new setting called "rider tracking" which i believe might be auto lean.  If you have this setting enabled you cannot use manual lean and you can confirm this by using 3rd person camera.  If you uncheck this setting you will enable manual leaning and will get  all the benefits from it.
Title: Re: Does leaning actually help you turn?
Post by: Wedgewood on July 31, 2018, 03:47:14 PM
Quote from: iNsane on July 31, 2018, 12:14:46 PM
Quote from: NorCal 986 on July 31, 2018, 09:19:30 AM
I've tried both leaning into corners, leaning forward, and not leaning at all, but I've noticed no change in speed at all. I just don't get how some people (one in particular) can go like 6 seconds a lap faster. I feel like I push as hard as possible for how much I can turn. But obviously physics among other things are still a serious problem for this game.

*cough* Sandy *cough*

The difference is in stability and tire grip, which in turn if used correctly can generate more speed.  if you sit and  lean to the outside of a turn while on the turn exit you can get a massive drive while keeping the bike tracking straight and avoiding the rear from swapping back and forth, without counter leaning the bike will not track straight and will continue to lean into the straight causing you to give less throttle in order to control the trajectory.  If you practice leaning enough you will find a big difference in control-ability.
Title: Re: Does leaning actually help you turn?
Post by: Asdrael on July 31, 2018, 04:22:41 PM
Leaning on a 250f is optional. On a 450f, you won't manage decent laptimes (read: faster than a 250f) if you don't work on your body position. At least that's what I see when trying to push on RedBud (I'm going almst 2 full seconds faster a lap on a 450f now, but it's more work).
Title: Re: Does leaning actually help you turn?
Post by: Ruubs on July 31, 2018, 07:18:24 PM
Quote from: iNsane on July 31, 2018, 12:14:46 PM
Quote from: NorCal 986 on July 31, 2018, 09:19:30 AM
I've tried both leaning into corners, leaning forward, and not leaning at all, but I've noticed no change in speed at all. I just don't get how some people (one in particular) can go like 6 seconds a lap faster. I feel like I push as hard as possible for how much I can turn. But obviously physics among other things are still a serious problem for this game.

*cough* Sandy *cough*
I think I do have left / right lean bound to my right joystick (which also has front / back lean), and use it to stabilize my bike without really thinking about it. There was a time that I hadn't bound my left / right lean to any button, not sure if that's still the case.
Title: Re: Does leaning actually help you turn?
Post by: CSchmied986 on July 31, 2018, 07:24:24 PM
For me I lean opposite direction in corners and have no problem with traction or stability, my problem is that I just literally can't lean any further to get through the corner faster. I'm guessing Sandy is just really good at keeping momentum with the limited lean angle.
Title: Re: Does leaning actually help you turn?
Post by: Wedgewood on August 01, 2018, 12:50:45 AM
Quote from: NorCal 986 on July 31, 2018, 07:24:24 PM
For me I lean opposite direction in corners and have no problem with traction or stability, my problem is that I just literally can't lean any further to get through the corner faster. I'm guessing Sandy is just really good at keeping momentum with the limited lean angle.

Lowering the Stability help will let you to turn in a little more but will cause the front end to wash out easier.  I'm using it at 90% and I find it to be a perfect.  Lowering stability also gives a little quicker throttle response.
Title: Re: Does leaning actually help you turn?
Post by: CSchmied986 on August 01, 2018, 06:15:33 AM
I actually run 70 for mine. What's Sandy run?  ;) I think as far speed goes, Sandy is by far the fastest, Santos is probably second, and me and a couple others make up the top 5, but if anyone "cough" has any tips on getting more speed, it would be awesome if you would share! 8)

The only tip I have to offer is that I modified my controls so both of my Turn and Lean are on the left stick, but I reverse the axis so when I turn one direction, my body leans the opposite direction. I have found this to make the handling better and more consistent. But that may not work for you.
Title: Re: Does leaning actually help you turn?
Post by: joao santos 17 on August 01, 2018, 09:28:02 AM
I have 100 stability dont even try to modify that and play like mxsim and automatic left right lean
Title: Re: Does leaning actually help you turn?
Post by: Ruubs on August 01, 2018, 12:13:10 PM
Quote from: NorCal 986 on August 01, 2018, 06:15:33 AM
I actually run 70 for mine. What's Sandy run?  ;) I think as far speed goes, Sandy is by far the fastest, Santos is probably second, and me and a couple others make up the top 5, but if anyone "cough" has any tips on getting more speed, it would be awesome if you would share! 8)

The only tip I have to offer is that I modified my controls so both of my Turn and Lean are on the left stick, but I reverse the axis so when I turn one direction, my body leans the opposite direction. I have found this to make the handling better and more consistent. But that may not work for you.
Stability help is the slider you can't change in game right? That one is at 100 for me. I don't cheat. ;)
Title: Re: Does leaning actually help you turn?
Post by: Braapsta969 on September 21, 2018, 04:31:21 PM
Yo, turn your direct steer to 0% and you'll notice a huge difference; it'll take a while to get used to. Maybe you already did this though, helped me take corners more aggressively & I lap faster now, I still wash out though. 
Title: Re: Does leaning actually help you turn?
Post by: VulpesLago on January 07, 2020, 09:06:32 PM
Quote from: CSchmied986 on July 30, 2018, 05:54:42 AMIs it just me, or does anyone else think that leaning does not affect cornering? I would think if you leaned into a corner you could turn sharper, but that does not seem to be the case.  ???

I ride lean gain on 80% and leaning opposite direction does make the turn sharper. Wihout useing it can't make as sharp turns, than guys that use 100% lean gain.
Title: Re: Does leaning actually help you turn?
Post by: FryedroPonics on January 21, 2020, 09:06:48 PM
you dont want to lean into the corner you want to lean towards the outside. so if your turning left you want to lean right. definitely does help