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Title: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: MotardMatt on February 01, 2014, 07:24:29 PM
Okay, so i just saw a video of this game and i have to say that even though its in Alpha it looks and sounds better that MXS in ways.

The rider actually does something in this as opposed to MXS where he pretty much stays still. Also the little added features like brake squeek is a very nice feature.

What do you guys think, is this going to be the MXS replacement or will it make jlv try harder to release frequent updates and improve it even more?
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: MxMonster725 on February 01, 2014, 07:29:59 PM
If this game is ready, it will be the dead of mxsim :/
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: MotardMatt on February 01, 2014, 07:33:21 PM
Quote from: MxMonster725 on February 01, 2014, 07:29:59 PM
If this game is ready, it will be the dead of mxsim :/

Looking at how ready it is already i'm expecting a lot!
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Ruubs on February 01, 2014, 07:34:04 PM
If the physics of this game is good enough for a real Mx game (including whips etc). It defintly will be better than Mx Sim because of all it's features.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: MxMonster725 on February 01, 2014, 07:34:38 PM
Yeaa me to :D
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: MxMonster725 on February 01, 2014, 07:35:16 PM
Indeed, Sandbiter
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: MotardMatt on February 01, 2014, 07:36:39 PM
So this game already looks like it has better physics, already has shaders and better rider movement.

Should be good to see the battle between the games. This and MXS
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: GDUBMX on February 01, 2014, 07:39:42 PM
Quote from: MotardMatt on February 01, 2014, 07:24:29 PM
Okay, so i just saw a video of this game and i have to say that even though its in Alpha it looks and sounds better that MXS in ways.

The rider actually does something in this as opposed to MXS where he pretty much stays still. Also the little added features like break squeek is a very nice feature.

What do you guys think, is this going to be the MXS replacement or will it make jlv try harder to release frequent updates and improve it even more?
Sorry matt I've been waiting a long time for this after your... You're your thing ha ha ha... Its brake not break
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: GDUBMX on February 01, 2014, 07:42:34 PM
Piboso had already said that some of the features in this will hopefully set the bar for the simulators. Meaning some if the features in this will be copied no doubt.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: MotardMatt on February 01, 2014, 07:42:55 PM
Quote from: gdubmx on February 01, 2014, 07:39:42 PM
Quote from: MotardMatt on February 01, 2014, 07:24:29 PM
Okay, so i just saw a video of this game and i have to say that even though its in Alpha it looks and sounds better that MXS in ways.

The rider actually does something in this as opposed to MXS where he pretty much stays still. Also the little added features like break squeek is a very nice feature.

What do you guys think, is this going to be the MXS replacement or will it make jlv try harder to release frequent updates and improve it even more?
Sorry matt I've been waiting a long time for this after your... You're your thing ha ha ha... Its brake not break

I have no idea what you're talking about ;)
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: GDUBMX on February 01, 2014, 07:54:33 PM
Lol, elephants never forget. Was just one of those dumb MX sim forum things you did when I used poor grammer and someone had to correct me cus I said your and not you're apparently.. It was you that time lol. So consider this payback ha a. I don't think jlv will see this as a need to better his game. Seems like he's kinda done with it. Not sure if tjatisthecase thats just my views
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: MotardMatt on February 01, 2014, 07:55:32 PM
Quote from: gdubmx on February 01, 2014, 07:54:33 PM
Lol, elephants never forget. Was just one of those dumb MX sim forum things you did when I used poor grammer and someone had to correct me cus I said your and not you're apparently.. It was you that time lol. So consider this payback ha a. I don't think jlv will see this as a need to better his game. Seems like he's kinda done with it. Not sure if tjatisthecase thats just my views

nailed it....
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: GDUBMX on February 01, 2014, 07:58:59 PM
Already tho this game has an advantage with those rider physics. Hopefully the sounds will change as I feel they sound like a 4 and 2 stroke
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Evans711 on February 01, 2014, 08:02:48 PM
Just in its pre-alpha stage it has the all and more of the features that sim has taken 5 years to get too. And MX-Bikes makes it all look much better. Good job Piboso!
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: KaseoDip on February 01, 2014, 08:18:55 PM
Quote from: Evans711 on February 01, 2014, 08:02:48 PM
Just in its pre-alpha stage it has the all and more of the features that sim has taken 5 years to get too. And MX-Bikes makes it all look much better. Good job Piboso!
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: PiBoSo on February 01, 2014, 08:20:32 PM
Quote from: gdubmx on February 01, 2014, 07:42:34 PM
Piboso had already said that some of the features in this will hopefully set the bar for the simulators. Meaning some if the features in this will be copied no doubt.

Not really.
The plan is to port improvements made for MX Bikes to the other sims sharing the same engine ( GP Bikes, World Racing Series, Kart Racing Pro ).
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: PiBoSo on February 01, 2014, 08:22:29 PM

Please don't get your expectation too high, or you may be disappointed. Especially by the very first release.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: GDUBMX on February 01, 2014, 09:21:49 PM
Quote from: PiBoSo on February 01, 2014, 08:20:32 PM
Quote from: gdubmx on February 01, 2014, 07:42:34 PM
Piboso had already said that some of the features in this will hopefully set the bar for the simulators. Meaning some if the features in this will be copied no doubt.
ah sorry, by simulators I assumed you meant other sims l. Not your own.

Not really.
The plan is to port improvements made for MX Bikes to the other sims sharing the same engine ( GP Bikes, World Racing Series, Kart Racing Pro ).
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Ruubs on February 01, 2014, 09:39:03 PM
You kinda fucked that post up Gdubmx. Your comment is in the midle of the quote ;).

As a pro in Mx Simulator I really want something else TBH. I still love the outdoor season, but once sx starts I see all the frustrating things (bugs? I don't know...) like collisions, weird steering swaps, weird crashes and that sort of stuff. I really really hope that this game's supercross is better, because I love SX.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: GDUBMX on February 01, 2014, 10:01:27 PM
Ah shit! I'm on a touch phone at the moment! Always mess up on here lol. Thanks sandbiter!
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Motoboss on February 01, 2014, 10:09:09 PM
We wont know till we play it ourselves i guess..What will make it or brake it for me is if its user friendly and by that I mean not hard to control .. I dont mind it being a little difficult but at least make sense of why the bike is doing what its doing ..Ive played MXS since it started and still have know idea why the bike does some things that it does ... If its not fun I wont play it and will move on to something else like im doing now.. I have been waiting for a long time for this..
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: MotardMatt on February 01, 2014, 10:09:48 PM
Quote from: PiBoSo on February 01, 2014, 08:22:29 PM

Please don't get your expectation too high, or you may be disappointed. Especially by the very first release.

Coming from sim you cant have high expectations, GP Bikes was sick and im hoping that this is somewhere as good as that.

I'm actually really looking forward to some sort of playable version
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: MotardMatt on February 01, 2014, 10:11:18 PM
I heard someone say there might be dual analog controls (like MvA) is this true?
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Motoboss on February 01, 2014, 10:15:42 PM
Quote from: MotardMatt on February 01, 2014, 10:11:18 PM
I heard someone say there might be dual analog controls (like MvA) is this true?


- Terrain deformation is in progress. Will probably not be featured in the first release, but integrated later.
- Yes, there are tearoffs
- What is the difference? ??? It should work for both.
- Of course different terrains will be simulated, and it will be possible to choose between different tires to better fit different conditions.
- The xbox 360 controller is supported ( no pre-defined profiles, though, controls must be manually assigned ), and it will be possible to use the right stick for the rider movements
- All the needed animations will be ingame  :)
- Trackside objects will be static
- No damage is planned for the bike
- It will be possible to race online
- It's too early to tell, because tools are still in progress. Tracks will start with 16 bits heightmaps, and then it will be possible to assign different terrain materials and integrate 3D objects.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: MotardMatt on February 01, 2014, 10:47:11 PM
Quote from: Motoboss on February 01, 2014, 10:15:42 PM
Quote from: MotardMatt on February 01, 2014, 10:11:18 PM
I heard someone say there might be dual analog controls (like MvA) is this true?


- Terrain deformation is in progress. Will probably not be featured in the first release, but integrated later.
- Yes, there are tearoffs
- What is the difference? ??? It should work for both.
- Of course different terrains will be simulated, and it will be possible to choose between different tires to better fit different conditions.
- The xbox 360 controller is supported ( no pre-defined profiles, though, controls must be manually assigned ), and it will be possible to use the right stick for the rider movements
- All the needed animations will be ingame  :)
- Trackside objects will be static
- No damage is planned for the bike
- It will be possible to race online
- It's too early to tell, because tools are still in progress. Tracks will start with 16 bits heightmaps, and then it will be possible to assign different terrain materials and integrate 3D objects.

Thanks for that! cleared up most of my questions  :)
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Robert196 on February 02, 2014, 12:57:35 AM
You guys are very quick to assume things. We haven't even gotten our hands on an alpha yet.

As a 'hardcore' MXS fan, I honestly hope this gets off the ground well. It'll be cool for JLV to have some competition.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: MotardMatt on February 02, 2014, 01:01:52 AM
I quit
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Grizz on February 02, 2014, 01:04:40 AM
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Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: mxrewind665 on February 02, 2014, 01:22:33 AM
Quote from: Grizz on February 02, 2014, 01:04:40 AM
(http://gsngaming.com/uploads/monthly_10_2013/post-241-0-81297100-1382474775.jpg)
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: 1Twelve on February 02, 2014, 01:26:20 AM
What makes me even happier for it, is I know a lot of us sim players on gonna make a lot of sick stuff for mxb. I hope there is a RaceFactoryGaming for mxb, that would be absolutely amazing.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Evans711 on February 02, 2014, 02:21:26 AM
Quote from: 1Twelve on February 02, 2014, 01:26:20 AM
What makes me even happier for it, is I know a lot of us sim players on gonna make a lot of sick stuff for mxb. I hope there is a RaceFactoryGaming for mxb, that would be absolutely amazing.
Yeah no, race factory has caused so much controversy in sim.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Midbeck on February 02, 2014, 02:41:19 AM
Quote from: Evans711 on February 02, 2014, 02:21:26 AM
Quote from: 1Twelve on February 02, 2014, 01:26:20 AM
What makes me even happier for it, is I know a lot of us sim players on gonna make a lot of sick stuff for mxb. I hope there is a RaceFactoryGaming for mxb, that would be absolutely amazing.
Yeah no, race factory has caused so much controversy in sim.

How can you not hope for something like rf for MXB?
They have pushed MXS to the limits
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Evans711 on February 02, 2014, 02:57:19 AM
Quote from: Midbeck on February 02, 2014, 02:41:19 AM
Quote from: Evans711 on February 02, 2014, 02:21:26 AM
Quote from: 1Twelve on February 02, 2014, 01:26:20 AM
What makes me even happier for it, is I know a lot of us sim players on gonna make a lot of sick stuff for mxb. I hope there is a RaceFactoryGaming for mxb, that would be absolutely amazing.
Yeah no, race factory has caused so much controversy in sim.

How can you not hope for something like rf for MXB?
They have pushed MXS to the limits
They created a MXS high archery. its gotten better now but it was kinda messing stuff up for a while. I for one think MXS was a lot more fun when it wasn't so serious, Like phats monday night races etc.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: WellsMX524 on February 02, 2014, 03:01:11 AM
I wonder if we'll be able to import blend files.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: ktmrdr11 on February 02, 2014, 03:59:34 AM
We will be able to Mod the game, which most of you dont know what that means 100% because sim was your first game with a system like that, To where as sim has limits to the stuff you can add because of wheel base and other stuff, modding is basically a much better way of doing so, if you want to see stuff go check out the way people modded mva for computer.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: kmracing99 on February 02, 2014, 07:29:59 AM
It's great to see another MX game come out for PC. Gives jlv a bit of competition  ;)
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: DD on February 02, 2014, 09:17:27 AM
Quote from: Evans711 on February 02, 2014, 02:57:19 AM
Quote from: Midbeck on February 02, 2014, 02:41:19 AM
Quote from: Evans711 on February 02, 2014, 02:21:26 AM
Quote from: 1Twelve on February 02, 2014, 01:26:20 AM
What makes me even happier for it, is I know a lot of us sim players on gonna make a lot of sick stuff for mxb. I hope there is a RaceFactoryGaming for mxb, that would be absolutely amazing.
Yeah no, race factory has caused so much controversy in sim.

How can you not hope for something like rf for MXB?
They have pushed MXS to the limits
They created a MXS high archery. its gotten better now but it was kinda messing stuff up for a while. I for one think MXS was a lot more fun when it wasn't so serious, Like phats monday night races etc.

rF does not = MX Simulator and MX Simulator does not = rF.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: JRob on February 02, 2014, 10:27:46 AM
Just saw the Pre-alpha video and it looks better than MX Sim already!
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Jeremy on February 02, 2014, 11:06:36 AM
I hope this game will push JLV into improving his game so we can have two badass games to play. Thats all I am hoping for.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Ruubs on February 02, 2014, 12:02:33 PM
We're still not sure, but we (EMF) might host events for this game if that's posible.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: GDUBMX on February 02, 2014, 12:04:20 PM
Quote from: Sandbiter on February 02, 2014, 12:02:33 PM
We're still not sure, but we (EMF) might host events for this game if that's posible.
thats awesome, being a british dude this works better for me.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Aernouts on February 02, 2014, 02:55:12 PM
Quote from: Motoboss on February 01, 2014, 10:09:09 PM
We wont know till we play it ourselves i guess..What will make it or brake it for me is if its user friendly and by that I mean not hard to control .. I dont mind it being a little difficult but at least make sense of why the bike is doing what its doing ..Ive played MXS since it started and still have know idea why the bike does some things that it does ... If its not fun I wont play it and will move on to something else like im doing now.. I have been waiting for a long time for this..

+1 for this.
Exactly my thoughts, playing a simulator does not mean you need to practise for 4 months.... ??? till you are able to play the game and having *fun*. (MX simulator ??)
Not my cup of tea.

I have been modding most bike games..... Mainly physics and i was surprised how much *realsim, fun* i most of the times could get out of these games.
A very good example is MotoGP 13... out of the box its pretty arcadisch after editing it is one of the best bike games in terms of realism and fun i have on my computer.

This does not mean that game turned into a *Simulator*
But  a bike game should be playable after some sort of practise.... not 3/4 months... then its me out and start doing something else.
+ i am not a youngster anymore i simply dont have the time to practise that much  ::)
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Midbeck on February 02, 2014, 04:31:59 PM
I don't mind if it takes 3-4 months for you to learn the game. All I hope for is that the random slideouts, fall offs etc that plague the mxs physics is not a problem in MXB.
If the learning curve is anything like GP-Bikes I'll be more then happy, you learn how the bike handles, throttle control, how to enter and exit a corner. Wich means that if you put in the time and play a lot you will be quicker and more consistent than the guys who maybe only plays for a couple of hours a week, this is something that's necessary for the game to keep evolving and having a big and active community.

I guess what im trying to say is that reward the guys that put in the time without hurting those that don't. You should be able to pick the game up and within a couple of hours be able to play it and ride around but not be anywhere near the guys that put in the time.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Motoboss on February 02, 2014, 05:16:16 PM
If its like you describe ..like I said before I wont be hanging around long.. In real life you can learn how to ride a bike in about a half hour ..So why would a game need to be any different..The only thing that would need to be practiced is going fast... Just like real life
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: MX181 on February 02, 2014, 11:18:35 PM
Quote from: Motoboss on February 02, 2014, 05:16:16 PMIn real life you can learn how to ride a bike in about a half hour ..So why would a game need to be any different
The best argument point i've ever seen in relation to a mx game
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Richard de Kuijper on February 02, 2014, 11:27:39 PM
in real life you can learn it in a half houre jeah!, but i want to see you then hahaha, i hope this game is even so dificult as mxs! i hope u have to train train train but not as mx vs atv alive that you bike is faster that all the other bikes en that you win evrything easy en that you have to win races on arcade. that sucks, just only singelplayer en multiplayer as in mxs
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: PiBoSo on February 02, 2014, 11:29:55 PM
Quote from: Motoboss on February 02, 2014, 05:16:16 PM
If its like you describe ..like I said before I wont be hanging around long.. In real life you can learn how to ride a bike in about a half hour ..So why would a game need to be any different..The only thing that would need to be practiced is going fast... Just like real life

Because in a simulator you don't hold the handlebars and are not sitting on the simulated bike.
So no feedback from the front wheel and from the chassis.
Also, no ( or, maybe better, incorrect ) balance feedback from your ears.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Richard de Kuijper on February 02, 2014, 11:34:43 PM
but PiSoBo
i hope you make the gameplay soo realistic as possible, when take a corner you have to go leaning and steering but if u go out the corner that it would be great if you have to lean en steering back :D
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Motoboss on February 02, 2014, 11:45:16 PM
Ya a half hour ..Ive taught many people...Don't 3 and 4 year olds ride bikes? I think I saw chad reeds kid ride out in opening ceremonies... lol
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: GDUBMX on February 02, 2014, 11:55:50 PM
Quote from: Motoboss on February 02, 2014, 11:45:16 PM
Ya a half hour ..Ive taught many people...Don't 3 and 4 year olds ride bikes? I think I saw chad reeds kid ride out in opening ceremonies... lol
i taught my 7 year old withing half hour! :D i sure my dad taught me in half hour when i was 4! 25 years ago.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Midbeck on February 03, 2014, 01:46:10 AM
Quote from: Motoboss on February 02, 2014, 11:45:16 PM
Ya a half hour ..Ive taught many people...Don't 3 and 4 year olds ride bikes? I think I saw chad reeds kid ride out in opening ceremonies... lol

I'm pretty sure that if you wanna learn how to be as fast as Chad Reeds kid it wouldn't take more then 30mins in MX sim.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: MX181 on February 03, 2014, 02:26:06 AM
Quote from: Midbeck on February 03, 2014, 01:46:10 AM
Quote from: Motoboss on February 02, 2014, 11:45:16 PM
Ya a half hour ..Ive taught many people...Don't 3 and 4 year olds ride bikes? I think I saw chad reeds kid ride out in opening ceremonies... lol

I'm pretty sure that if you wanna learn how to be as fast as Chad Reeds kid it wouldn't take more then 30mins in MX sim.

although to have the ability to sit and go in straight line doesnt take long nor does it take long to roll around the track. yes it will take time to go from this stage to chad reed. although i see where mb is coming from
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: motoholden on February 03, 2014, 03:22:49 AM
Yes this game will kill sim
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: al167 on February 03, 2014, 10:30:44 AM
im trying gpbikes now (demo), and im impressed!, I recommend anyone here to try it. its free for one track and piboso said mxbikes will have a similar feel and similar menus, setup screens. so far it is pretty difficult just like mxs. but I did go straight in and turn everthing on full sim, manual clutch, trans ect. there are so many buttons to use my xbox controller cant do them all! it seems you need more analog controls than the 360 controller has. ive read some people using pedals with it. im still tinkering just like those first few frustrating hours of mxs. lol
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: yamaha#521 on February 03, 2014, 03:29:53 PM
I'm laughing at all these comments like: Yeah, this game will kick MX simulator's ass. How do you know that? Because of a less than a minute long video where you can see the rider turning and jumping? You don't know how the physics are yet, for an example it could be that you can steer as hard as possible without falling MX vs ATV style, or you could do a scrub by pressing a button on the lip of a jump (mud style). Not trying to offend the creators though, because it could be vice versa.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: PiBoSo on February 03, 2014, 03:40:26 PM
Quote from: yamaha#521 on February 03, 2014, 03:29:53 PM
I'm laughing at all these comments like: Yeah, this game will kick MX simulator's ass. How do you know that? Because of a less than a minute long video where you can see the rider turning and jumping? You don't know how the physics are yet, for an example it could be that you can steer as hard as possible without falling MX vs ATV style, or you could do a scrub by pressing a button on the lip of a jump (mud style). Not trying to offend the creators though, because it could be vice versa.

Wise words.
The best thing to do is to try MX Bikes before judging if it's the right software for your needs.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Aernouts on February 03, 2014, 05:10:50 PM
Quote from: PiBoSo on February 03, 2014, 03:40:26 PM
Quote from: yamaha#521 on February 03, 2014, 03:29:53 PM
I'm laughing at all these comments like: Yeah, this game will kick MX simulator's ass. How do you know that? Because of a less than a minute long video where you can see the rider turning and jumping? You don't know how the physics are yet, for an example it could be that you can steer as hard as possible without falling MX vs ATV style, or you could do a scrub by pressing a button on the lip of a jump (mud style). Not trying to offend the creators though, because it could be vice versa.

Wise words.
The best thing to do is to try MX Bikes before judging if it's the right software for your needs.

Yep true.
Easy peasy.

Me Like Sim => not practising for months before it is playable
Other Real sim players => like it the other way around.
That sounds fair to me.

A real simulator is something different i guess.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: showtimemx on February 03, 2014, 08:56:33 PM
Quote from: Motoboss on February 01, 2014, 10:09:09 PM
We wont know till we play it ourselves i guess..What will make it or brake it for me is if its user friendly and by that I mean not hard to control .. I dont mind it being a little difficult but at least make sense of why the bike is doing what its doing ..Ive played MXS since it started and still have know idea why the bike does some things that it does ... If its not fun I wont play it and will move on to something else like im doing now.. I have been waiting for a long time for this..

Motoboss I think you have made the perfect statement here.  I started playing MXS from the start and the game is not one that you can honestly sit down and enjoy for a 30min every so often, it is so unpredictable at times that it makes me wont to scream and when I get home from work to play a motocross game I want it to be a challenge but I also want to be able to twist the throttle and enjoy myself.  I'm hoping that this game will be fun so that you can make some of your amazing tracks, I know for a lot of us old crew we have been hanging around waiting for something to fill the void for some of the fun motocross games we use to play.  Nothing wrong with trying to make a motocross game real but the key word is "game" and as such should be fun, if you want a real sim go outside and ride a real dirtbike.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: DD on February 03, 2014, 09:23:23 PM
Quote from: showtimemx on February 03, 2014, 08:56:33 PM
Quote from: Motoboss on February 01, 2014, 10:09:09 PM
We wont know till we play it ourselves i guess..What will make it or brake it for me is if its user friendly and by that I mean not hard to control .. I dont mind it being a little difficult but at least make sense of why the bike is doing what its doing ..Ive played MXS since it started and still have know idea why the bike does some things that it does ... If its not fun I wont play it and will move on to something else like im doing now.. I have been waiting for a long time for this..

Motoboss I think you have made the perfect statement here.  I started playing MXS from the start and the game is not one that you can honestly sit down and enjoy for a 30min every so often, it is so unpredictable at times that it makes me wont to scream and when I get home from work to play a motocross game I want it to be a challenge but I also want to be able to twist the throttle and enjoy myself.  I'm hoping that this game will be fun so that you can make some of your amazing tracks, I know for a lot of us old crew we have been hanging around waiting for something to fill the void for some of the fun motocross games we use to play.  Nothing wrong with trying to make a motocross game real but the key word is "game" and as such should be fun, if you want a real sim go outside and ride a real dirtbike.

Agreed. I don't think I (or anyone else) will ever be as consistent in Mx Simulator as I am in real life. That's my biggest complaint honestly. Whether you are a beginner or a professional in real life, you spend more time on the bike than you do on the ground. In MXS it's like 50/50 no matter how good you are.

Of course in a game you aren't afraid to push until you fall because there are no consequences.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Motoboss on February 03, 2014, 11:49:52 PM
Its awesome to see a lot of old guys coming out of the wood work... :) Tanner?
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: showtimemx on February 04, 2014, 04:19:42 AM
Quote from: Motoboss on February 03, 2014, 11:49:52 PM
Its awesome to see a lot of old guys coming out of the wood work... :) Tanner?

Tanner is just Showtime, as you can tell back in the 1990's Jeremy McGrath was a big deal and as a kid he was a super hero.  Tanner is a stud though guy has incredible talent with video editing and screenshots.  I'm more on the modeling and track side.  anyways really looking forward to hopefully seeing some of the old group make some great content if the game is super fun.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Hey There Guy on February 04, 2014, 05:56:31 AM
If studded tires are part of the initial release I will be a happy camper!
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: MX181 on February 04, 2014, 06:40:49 AM
Quote from: showtimemx on February 04, 2014, 04:19:42 AM
Quote from: Motoboss on February 03, 2014, 11:49:52 PM
Its awesome to see a lot of old guys coming out of the wood work... :) Tanner?
anyways really looking forward to hopefully seeing some of the old group make some great content if the game is super fun.
or will the new boys have there match?  ;) :P :P :P
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: sad_nag_sutures on February 10, 2014, 06:56:09 AM
i for one am super excited to see the end of mx simulator. i personally have always been scared to create an account on there forum or even play multiplayer after playing single player for 4+ years.

obviously after watching these quick videos, i can tell you that mx sim will be no more within a few months. not only can i tell that the physics and gameplay are miles better; i can see that most people migrating from mx simulator to this community will be able to contribute to the growth of our game as a whole.

people like phathry25 who often seem to alienate newcomers to the community and seem to believe that they are defiantly better than other people will eventually destroy the foundation that jlv has shakily built.

i am excited to see the people here from mx sim, such as evans711 and motardmatt, who should be able to help us grow this game past what mx simulator has grown to. obviously you guys have been stunted by the mx simulator community and have not been able to constructively contribute to it because of this cyber bullying, which ravages the mx simulator forums and online servers.

i can't wait to see what piboso can create as he has obviously been much more successful with creating/publishing gp-bikes than jlv has been with mx simulator.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: MXkingUSA on February 10, 2014, 11:47:36 AM
Yeah, i agree.
Phantry25
PumaXCS
Ohagen75
AWood
Attacker5

Just to name a few. as long as those jerks stay away this place will be rad.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: giopanda on February 10, 2014, 12:32:26 PM
Quote from: MXkingUSA on February 10, 2014, 11:47:36 AM
Yeah, i agree.
Phantry25
PumaXCS
Ohagen75
AWood
Attacker5

Just to name a few. as long as those jerks stay away this place will be rad.

this is how to be loved on a forum.
well done sir
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: PiBoSo on February 10, 2014, 01:13:27 PM
Quote from: MXkingUSA on February 10, 2014, 11:47:36 AM
Yeah, i agree.
Phantry25
PumaXCS
Ohagen75
AWood
Attacker5

Just to name a few. as long as those jerks stay away this place will be rad.

http://forum.mx-bikes.com/index.php?topic=43.0
It's not nice to write a "blacklist" as first post.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: PiBoSo on February 10, 2014, 01:19:26 PM

Everyone, please calm down.
MX Bikes is not meant to be the "end" of anything.
Each software has strong and weak points, there is no "perfect" one. There are a lot of very good MX games on the market, MX Bikes is just meant to give one more alternative to fans.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: GDUBMX on February 10, 2014, 01:26:11 PM
when can we expect some new info then piboso? such as a new screenshot with the new rider model or perhaps a new video showing some scrubbing or something. lol sorry i had to ask!! :D
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: MX181 on February 10, 2014, 01:29:41 PM
Quote from: gdubmx on February 10, 2014, 01:26:11 PM
when can we expect some new info then piboso? such as a new screenshot with the new rider model or perhaps a new video showing some scrubbing or something. lol sorry i had to ask!! :D

he is keeping us all on our toes for good reason hopefuly  :P
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: AWood on February 10, 2014, 05:10:54 PM
Quote from: MXkingUSA on February 10, 2014, 11:47:36 AM
Yeah, i agree.
Phantry25
PumaXCS
Ohagen75
AWood
Attacker5

Just to name a few. as long as those jerks stay away this place will be rad.
Whoa whoa whoa. That's not a very nice thing to wake up to in the morning....  Damn.

I'm just here because I love motocross. I will still play MXS, I still do play Reflex and Alive and MVA. It's not the death of anything I just want to play a motocross game and have fun. Now idk what your problem is and I'm not gonna argue, but 2 of those other people are very nice and respected people.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: sad_nag_sutures on February 10, 2014, 05:19:44 PM
every time i see a post by people such as pumaxcs or phathry25, it is condescending and hateful.  from my experiences, awood seems like an extremely kind, thoughtful, and patient individual, but he has been alienated by grouches. i can't wait to see how much better this game will obviously be with all the respectful members of the rotting husk of a community that mx simulator is.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: GDUBMX on February 10, 2014, 05:45:22 PM
Quote from: sad_nag_sutures on February 10, 2014, 05:19:44 PM
this game will obviously be with all the respectful members of the rotting husk of a community that mx simulator is.
lol rotting husk ha ha. Tell it like it is
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Phathry25 on February 10, 2014, 06:08:02 PM
Hi there everybody!

You can all sleep easy tonight knowing I'll gladly share my opinions here too.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: sad_nag_sutures on February 10, 2014, 06:40:20 PM
we don't care. go back to being a caustic asshole on the mx simulator forums.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: giopanda on February 10, 2014, 06:43:40 PM
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/ca/cab9eb38030537cce5e0fd55fe2a7eb4b23ddcf61b2a3fedd1b25e851e65ffdd.jpg)
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: attacker5 on February 10, 2014, 07:28:20 PM
Since I have been called out, I will give my 2-cents.

I think MXS is a great game, and a great community believe it or not. Yes there are arguments and rages daily, but look at what they have created. JLV provided the world with the tools to create, many tried, many failed, but many also succeeded, and by doing so they all together developed hours and hours and hours of fun and enjoyment for each other. Yes, I have had my moments of utter frustration and rage too, I admit, I lost my temper more than a few times, and so have other members who have also created a substantial amount for MXS.

All I can say is, I hope those who do come from MXS mature, grow and build on what they have learnt, I sure will. I do however believe that with the MXS track record, if this forum isn't guarded like a boarding gate by TSA agents, we can be assured it will get very rough very quick.

I think its unrealistic to expect people to not come over from MXS or to expect that they wont behave the same, but I hope we will all use this as an opportunity to surrender our weapons instead of reload. People like GioPanda for one, will for sure help build this community, I just hope its the real one, unlike multiple attempts on other forums.

Good Luck with the game, I have been in that position myself and it is super exciting, I hope you all the best!
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: GDUBMX on February 10, 2014, 07:39:26 PM
Ramon where can I play motosim? Sounds awesome.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: attacker5 on February 10, 2014, 07:47:21 PM
You can check out the website, although the last released version is still very very dodgy and mainly for platform testing purposes. The forum is also a little abandoned, but none the less, I should continue work on it when I find time. The original intent of MotoSim was to program a suspension system that works and adjusts EXACTLY like a real world system. To the point where I used it to test various clickers on terrain which we then used on a real bike. The system goes as far as Oil Viscosity in the fork tubes and even creating your own shim stack and valving. Due to this we kind of lost the "Game" behind it, since it was more of an experiment. Feel free to check it out at www.motosim.org

Cheers
Ramon
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: MaxCups on February 11, 2014, 12:13:26 AM
first post, hi everyone...

seemed like everyone has commented in this so thought this would be a good place to start for me... like most here i played mxs but the game was never what i wanted it to be and the community wasnt friendly to people who wanted change like i needed so i stayed quite in fear... until now

i see plenty of friendly names and many who pushed the game creativly and some not so friendly faces that hopefully will learn that the attitude that had over on the other form will not be accepted here... no names but you know who you are... but mxking and sag have it pretty right on...

cant wait for the first update so i can finally get to playing a real simulator ;D

Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Ohagan75 on February 11, 2014, 01:04:46 AM
Quote from: MXkingUSA on February 10, 2014, 11:47:36 AM
Yeah, i agree.
Phantry25
PumaXCS
Ohagen75
AWood
Attacker5

Just to name a few. as long as those jerks stay away this place will be rad.
Two things:
-It's Ohagan, not Ohagen
-What have I ever done to you to piss you off? Who even are you? At least I don't hide behind some fake name acting all tough.

I plan to still play both games, and not side with one or the other, but to call me a jerk and to stay away, that's just plain rude
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: KaseoDip on February 11, 2014, 01:32:12 AM
Quote from: sad_nag_sutures on February 10, 2014, 05:19:44 PM
every time i see a post by people such as pumaxcs or phathry25, it is condescending and hateful.  from my experiences, awood seems like an extremely kind, thoughtful, and patient individual, but he has been alienated by grouches. i can't wait to see how much better this game will obviously be with all the respectful members of the rotting husk of a community that mx simulator is.
WHOAH WHOAH WHOAH!! PUMA?! Puma is the best! I have never seen him do anything stupid on the forum. And AWOOD?! Every time I see AWood post in the MXS forum, he is always in an argument and getting mad at people. Not sure how you see him as "kind" and "patient".
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: DD on February 11, 2014, 01:50:42 AM
How about all of you keep your personal feelings to yourselves? Thank you.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: sad_nag_sutures on February 11, 2014, 01:52:47 AM
awood is obviously just misunderstood. everyone over on that forum calls him a drunk asshole just because he brews and drinks fine beer, as he humbly showed, and because he provides well-thought-out and legitimate arguments against other, stupid users. pumaxcs does nothing but berate people; his snarky and sarcastic little remarks will eventually end him up in a hospital or in a casket with a hole in his face.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Mace-x on February 11, 2014, 01:55:30 AM
God!
please stop arguing like 5 year old kids and grow up, who cares if you like phatry, attacker, puma, awood or anyone, i guess we are all here for the same reason, MX-Bikes, so please guys, please lets keep this forum about what it is, thank you!  :)
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: AWood on February 11, 2014, 01:59:29 AM
Quote from: sad_nag_sutures on February 11, 2014, 01:52:47 AM
awood is obviously just misunderstood. everyone over on that forum calls him a drunk asshole just because he brews and drinks fine beer, as he humbly showed, and because he provides well-thought-out and legitimate arguments against other, stupid users. pumaxcs does nothing but berate people; his snarky and sarcastic little remarks will eventually end him up in a hospital or in a casket with a hole in his face.
Funny thing is I hardly ever get drunk. But that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said about me :P

I like everyone. :)
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: DD on February 11, 2014, 02:00:40 AM
Remember kids, self disclosure over the internet (especially via a gaming forum) is never a good idea.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: bc45 on February 11, 2014, 02:01:09 AM
Everybody needs to go into this forum and game open minded. Not prejudge people that you may know of from the mxs forums by their past experiences or doings. For one, everyone deserves a fresh start coming into this new game. Also, If you want the forums to be "better" than the mxs forums, talking about other people that were supposedly "bad" in other forums (Not accusing anybody) isn't going to start this community off clean. Keep doing this and it will lead straight downhill from there.

So all I'm saying, is have a little respect, and try to be nice to everyone! It's not too hard  :D I also hope PiBoSo is strict on his rules he has or will create on this forum, as that will help keep a lot of the segregation and what not away.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: MX181 on February 11, 2014, 03:01:35 AM
Quote from: bc45 on February 11, 2014, 02:01:09 AM
Everybody needs to go into this forum and game open minded. Not prejudge people that you may know of from the mxs forums by their past experiences or doings. For one, everyone deserves a fresh start coming into this new game. Also, If you want the forums to be "better" than the mxs forums, talking about other people that were supposedly "bad" in other forums (Not accusing anybody) isn't going to start this community off clean. Keep doing this and it will lead straight downhill from there.

So all I'm saying, is have a little respect, and try to be nice to everyone! It's not too hard  :D I also hope PiBoSo is strict on his rules he has or will create on this forum, as that will help keep a lot of the segregation and what not away.

check this intelligent guy out. totally agree with you man
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: pulse on February 11, 2014, 03:36:45 AM
sounds like the mxs forums already.  :'(

lets please get pass this bs.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Boblob801 on February 11, 2014, 05:10:00 AM
Quote from: MXkingUSA on February 10, 2014, 11:47:36 AM
Yeah, i agree.
Phantry25
PumaXCS
Ohagen75
AWood
Attacker5

Just to name a few. as long as those jerks stay away this place will be rad.

OMG I WASN'T IN THE LIST YEEEESS!!!
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Barrington314 on February 11, 2014, 05:30:12 AM
Quote from: MXkingUSA on February 10, 2014, 11:47:36 AM
Yeah, i agree.
Phantry25
PumaXCS
Ohagen75
AWood
Attacker5

Just to name a few. as long as those jerks stay away this place will be rad.
But y is i not on dis list? :(
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: bearded4glory on February 11, 2014, 07:35:59 AM
Quote from: Barrington314 on February 11, 2014, 05:30:12 AM
Quote from: MXkingUSA on February 10, 2014, 11:47:36 AM
Yeah, i agree.
Phantry25
PumaXCS
Ohagen75
AWood
Attacker5

Just to name a few. as long as those jerks stay away this place will be rad.
But y is i not on dis list? :(

We knew you would be more pissed since you aren't on it.
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: GDUBMX on February 11, 2014, 11:15:10 AM
Quote from: Barrington314 on February 11, 2014, 05:30:12 AM
Quote from: MXkingUSA on February 10, 2014, 11:47:36 AM
Yeah, i agree.
Phantry25
PumaXCS
Ohagen75
AWood
Attacker5

Just to name a few. as long as those jerks stay away this place will be rad.
But y is i not on dis list? :(
ha ha. ask him to edit the post. :)
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: MXkingUSA on February 11, 2014, 11:20:04 AM
Quote from: sad_nag_sutures on February 11, 2014, 01:52:47 AM
pumaxcs does nothing but berate people; his snarky and sarcastic little remarks will eventually end him up in a hospital or in a casket with a hole in his face.
maybe still possessing his virginity has something to do with this, heck if i met his ass in a bar i would for sure knock a hole in his face ahahahaha!! funny how all the punk bitches from the sim forum come over here to bitch about their innocence, even though y'all are bitching over there http://forum.mxsimulator.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=28549&start=165
Title: Re: MX Simulator Replacement?
Post by: Snappe on February 11, 2014, 01:58:40 PM
This thread is clearly not going anywhere, so now it's closed.

bc45 said it perfectly, in case anyone missed it:

Quote from: bc45 on February 11, 2014, 02:01:09 AM
Everybody needs to go into this forum and game open minded. Not prejudge people that you may know of from the mxs forums by their past experiences or doings. For one, everyone deserves a fresh start coming into this new game. Also, If you want the forums to be "better" than the mxs forums, talking about other people that were supposedly "bad" in other forums (Not accusing anybody) isn't going to start this community off clean. Keep doing this and it will lead straight downhill from there.

So all I'm saying, is have a little respect, and try to be nice to everyone! It's not too hard  :D