Hi guys, are there any guitar guys out here?
I had an ibanez gio basic, then bought a ibanez grg 270, that sounded great! but sold it :(
now i´m wanting to buy a guitar again and was thinking of a Epiphone les paul special II with bigsby, or something like it, any recomendations?
Rock on! ;D
I think geo said he plays guitar or is definitely part of a band. I play the turntables myself and dabble with cubase. I am super partial to my share of alt metal and stuff tho \m/
Haven't played in years but still have my esp, Ibanez bass and fender 12 string acoustic and a full drum kit in the garage.. Electronic music took over for me years ago and keep meaning to sell all my stuff but just can't let it go!
@Mace
It depends on your music style, or moreover, your budget. Not a huge fan of LP Special, but Bigsby vibratos are great. I'm personnally moving to a Telecaster Baja quite soon 8)
Quote from: gdubmx on December 24, 2015, 12:31:29 PM
I play the turntables myself and dabble with cubase.
Damn, a Cubase user! Evil! ;D
Quote from: RiccoChicco on December 24, 2015, 03:19:05 PM
Damn, a Cubase user! Evil! ;D
Haha +1.. Logic / Pro Tools all the way 8)
Quote from: RiccoChicco on December 24, 2015, 03:19:05 PM
@Mace
It depends on your music style, or moreover, your budget. Not a huge fan of LP Special, but Bigsby vibratos are great. I'm personnally moving to a Telecaster Baja quite soon 8)
Quote from: gdubmx on December 24, 2015, 12:31:29 PM
I play the turntables myself and dabble with cubase.
Damn, a Cubase user! Evil! ;D
lol im not a mac user so sadly cant get logic that im aware of anyway, plus.. ive made some bangers using it haha
Quote from: gdubmx on December 24, 2015, 07:12:47 PM
lol im not a mac user so sadly cant get logic that im aware of anyway, plus.. ive made some bangers using it haha
Quote from: TheFatController on December 24, 2015, 03:26:12 PM
Haha +1.. Logic / Pro Tools all the way 8)
So we are all in 3 different teams :P I used Logic Pro few years ago, but today I'm on FL + Ableton. I just started to take a look at Reason, apparently one of the best (but one of the harddest to learn ;D )
About guitars, if you have a low budget (<500$), take a look at Greg Bennett. Those guitars are built in Gibson factories, have a very nice "touch" and sound great for half the price of the same guitar with the Epiphone logo. I have one (a LP-like) and it's probably my favorite in my collection. The body is great and it has 2 good Seymour Duncan pickups. It doesn't have a vibrato though.
I need some help choosing a guitar.
I'm new to all of this. I've done a lot of research, and now I know what kind of guitar I want. I want a Western acoustic dreadnought guitar, but I need some help choosing one guitar.
Am I right that a concert body shaped guitar is better for finger picking than a dreadnought? And a dreadnought better for strumming? I want to strum more often than finger picking, but I'm not sure if this is true or false.
My budget is quite low (€100,- ish) but I've found some very interesting guitars.
Ibanez V50NJP-NT (Can't find a lot of information about this guitar, but it looks and sounds good)
Squier SA-105 (I don't like the black backside, so I'm not sure if I want it, but as far as I know it's a good guitar for a low price)
Epiphone DR-100 (I really like the look and sound on this one)
Thanks in advance guys!
Just saw this topic by messing up search between websites :D
I have a couple of guitars.
Ibanezes mostly: RG 7620, RG 2027XXV, Universe (2008 version), SZ520QM. As well as a custom 7 strings Skervesen.
As far as amps go, I have a VHT Delivrance 60 and a Fryette Sig:X running to either a 2x12 V30 cab or a 1x12 VHT cab.
I wont list all pedals but I currently have on my pedalboard a Jemini, a Boss NS2, Hall of Fame TC Electronics, a cheap delay and a Pitchblack tuner.
Im more the Acoustic guy. I own a cort guitar writing some Songs and stuff :)
Quote from: Asdrael on September 10, 2016, 03:36:33 PM
Just saw this topic by messing up search between websites :D
I have a couple of guitars.
Ibanezes mostly: RG 7620, RG 2027XXV, Universe (2008 version), SZ520QM. As well as a custom 7 strings Skervesen.
As far as amps go, I have a VHT Delivrance 60 and a Fryette Sig:X running to either a 2x12 V30 cab or a 1x12 VHT cab.
I wont list all pedals but I currently have on my pedalboard a Jemini, a Boss NS2, Hall of Fame TC Electronics, a cheap delay and a Pitchblack tuner.
Woah! a lot of guitars! :o
ibanez has great sound love them!
Quote from: Braap570 on September 11, 2016, 07:55:41 PM
Im more the Acoustic guy. I own a cort guitar writing some Songs and stuff :)
I recently bought a cort cr200, wasnt sure about the quality but is superb!
(http://www.cortguitars.com/img/product_colors/CR200-BK_hz.png)
Old metal head here! Rhythm guitar in an Iron Maiden cover band in high school and dabbled ever since. Got 2 acoustics (Ovation and Suzuki) and 2 electrics (Yamaha Strat and Fender Squire Strat) and a couple keyboards (DX7, DX27 and EP7). All of those were given to me or opportune purchases, I want an Ibanez Jem. I learn a new song here and there. Here I am around 19 years old with a Boss Distortion plugged into dad's stereo lol RIP....
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26510_1164334686879_5833053_n.jpg?oh=0839ebfed153b990b62ed671f3e1f601&oe=587B1C8A)
Quote from: PizzaChet on September 12, 2016, 04:12:10 PM
Old metal head here! Rhythm guitar in an Iron Maiden cover band in high school
Every time I hear "Iron Maiden" i feel like I have to mention that Run to the Hills has probably the worse Crash cymbal sound I have ever heard. Ever.
Nice haircut on the pic though, gotta love been a teen ;)
I have a couple guitars.. fender and a shector (c-1 elite) also bass and keyboard..
I use a BOSS loop station and a BOSS multi effect pedal bc I like to do the keller williams style..play all the instruments in one session lol. BOSS loop station is amazeballs for turning a one man show into an orchestra!
Can anyone help me out?
I've been practicing guitar lately but I feel like I'll never get decent at all. Nothing works for me and I'm close to raging while playing my guitar.
I have an Epiphone dr-100. A beginner acoustic guitar. I've never touched a guitar before so I started from scratch. I bought it a while ago. I played it a couple of weeks but then left it standing in my room. My excuse was because I didn't have a good plectrum :-[
Anyway, I got 20 plectrums from my parents on my birthday. Soft and hard ones. I was actually very happy with this present because every plectrum feels different and I definitly have my favourite ones. I play with a 60mm soft one now and I like it. I've been following Andy Guitar's beginners tutorials on youtube. I'm at level 3 now, but I'm not progressing a single bit!
Currently trying to get this chord sequence 1 under my belt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMJRKQNRg80&index=22&list=PL-RYb_OMw7GfG6MS0WBO1v2qvtomUkZci
I almost got it with the 4 beat strumming. The 8 beat strumming is very hard IMO. Been trying the 4 beat strumming for several days now, I think even close to a week. I tried one of the songs from this tutorial level today. The song I tried today was Cheerleader - Omi (http://www.andyguitar.co.uk/online-lessons/cheerleader-omi/). Couldn't get it to work at all. Strings not ringing out or guitar buzzing (the buzzing is probably also caused my my beginners guitar tho). I can't get the chord changes fluent at all. I've to look at my left hand and really think about where my fingers have to go next. I also tend to place my fingers in the middle of the fret instead of the closest to the fret bar. I feel like my hands are too small at times, but that probably isn't the case either..
I absolutely LOVE playing my guitar and I can't wait to play some proper songs without many mistakes. In level 4 of Andy's tutorials there are songs from Bruno Mars and Ed Sheeran which I'm really looking forward to. Yet, I can't get there because I want to finish level 3 first.
Can anyone help me out? What am I doing wrong? How can I improve? What should I do?
Couple of things when you are trying to practice:
- Spend the money to get your guitar set up by a guitar tech. Probably around 50€, the best 50€ you will ever spend if the guy is competent. It might get rid of the buzzing.
- Use a metronome. Do it. DO IT.
- Always be in tune. Retune during a practice session (not a single video I have seen has ever said that yet it is the single best thing you can do to train your ear).
Now, regarding your issues. I have to be honest and say that the guy's explanations in the videos are pretty terrible and his fingering of the Amaj unconventional. Most people use their index finger on the D string, major on the G, etc. This is not "because it's done this way", it's because you will learn down the road that the index finger should be kept more mobile. Also, it will be easier to keep the finger in the position that doesn't prevent the side strings from ringing. Try it and see if you can make it ring properly.
Common problems leading to buzzing and involontary muting:
- bad guitar setup
- the nails/flesh of your fretting hand are too close to the next string. Fret using the tip of the finger (for those chords at least).
- Fretting too far / close to the fret and/or with the wrong amount of pressure. The finger should not be covering the fret at all, but sit next to it. From a top view, the fret should align with the very side of your finger (again, flexible depending on what / how / where you fret but it's a guide line). Pressure-Wise, go for "just enough to make it ring. Not enough, it will buzz. Too much, you'll be sharp and GOD MY EARS.
Regarding the chord progression, I'll leave music theory aside since it's probably not what you are after right now but you should look into it at some point to know why you are using this progression (and why the finger anchoring part is full of shit). Just know that using those positions, the G chord uses the 6 strings (320002), the A the 5 high strings (-02220), the D the high 4 (--0232). You can transition using --000- as this is part of a G chord and will should fine in this context, while opening up your hand for a full chord change.
Now, to make it all work together, whip out your metronome. Do the 4 beat at 60, increment when it's fluid. For the 8 bit, maybe start at 50. And increment. Slowly. You need to build it up, it won't magically happen over night to hit 200 in half notes ;)
What I did when starting out was also to decouple: get the left hand used to changing chords, forgetting the right hand. And get the right hand to strum properly, without fretting. After that, combine.
Good luck and enjoy practicing!
Also, a great song to practice easy strumming is the Nirvana - My Girl, unplugged version. It's basically and E/G rotation. And it will get you laid :p
I went through this. I wanted a guitar badly for Christmas when I was about 10 and when I got one I instantly felt concerned for learning lol..
I started young and had lessons after school learning all the right things, how to read music, scales, practices and all that, and classic learn to play guitar songs, and I hated it so much I gave up.
About 2 - 3 years later I decided to give it another try because I had a friend who played and he showed me how to play along with a couple of offspring songs, showed me what a power chord was and I was hooked.. Then got a squire electric.
Then I started having lessons with an amazing local guy, his teaching revolved around bringing a song in every week that I wanted to learn. He was very quick at picking up how the song was played and he would go through every section showing me how to play it and would tab it out.
After a year I was able to do this myself and ended up getting really advanced all on my own. But over the years I stopped playing.
My point in this story is that I found the best way to learn how to play was by focusing on what I liked rather than what I was supposed to learn according to the purist. Playing guitar is all about having fun. If step 4 is easier than step 3, skip what you can't do and focus on what you can.
If you can't strum a certain way then that just comes down to practice. My story takes place over years not weeks.. Learning one technique can take weeks of playing every day and you need to have patience with yourself, but my overall point is learning techniques you want to know rather than ones you think you should know might help you progress quicker. Once you know more, learning the odd hard thing becomes a lot easier.
FUN IS FOR THE WEAK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF6e7sBgiyw
But yes, TFC is right. Keep the fun factor high, it's the best way to make progress. Find a song you like that doesn't sound that hard, and work towards it. Slowly.
Thanks a lot guys!
Do I really need to get my guitar set up already? Does it make a big difference for a total beginner to learn? I've always felt like with setting up things (same for dirtbike suspension etc) that it'll be something to worry about in a later stage. First get to know the basics, be able to play some songs and then worry about setting it up correctly to make it sound even better. I actually never tune my guitar. Most of the time when I tune it to be sure it's still in tune it's still in tune. Should I check if it's in tune before every practice session?
Thanks for pointing out about Andy's explanation as well. I'll try to do the chords etc how they can be found everywhere else instead of what he's telling everyone. The finger anchoring part is actually helping me out tho. But I've always thought that actually lifting off every finger and then putting them back on in another chord shape would make my muscle memory better for those chords. Should I just lift off all my fingers instead of anchoring?
I unfortunately don't understand what you mean with the chord progression though "You can transition using --000- as this is part of a G chord and will should fine in this context, while opening up your hand for a full chord change." Do you mean that on lets say the first strum I can strum --000- and 'search' the G chord?
I'll be using a metronome next! Is Google's metronome good enough?
I'll be trying Nirvana - My Girl, unplugged version soon. I'm curious how that'll go :)
Thanks Asdrael! :)
I've actually never had any lessons. I'm trying to learn it all myself using the internet. It's probably better having someone to learn with and someone pointing out what you're doing wrong though. But I'm sure it's also possible just using the internet by yourself, at least I hope so. I don't have the money and time to take guitar lessons at the moment.
Most of the songs I like are rather hard tho haha. Some of Ed Sheeran are rather easy, still way to difficult for me, but they're being called very easy beginner songs... I'm such a noob :(
I'll just keep trying and I hope that I'll get better eventually. I'll be focussing more on finger placement, chord shapes and the fun things.
Thanks Fats! :)
Quote from: Sandbiter on November 13, 2016, 12:04:14 AMDo I really need to get my guitar set up already? Does it make a big difference for a total beginner to learn? I've always felt like with setting up things (same for dirtbike suspension etc) that it'll be something to worry about in a later stage. First get to know the basics, be able to play some songs and then worry about setting it up correctly to make it sound even better. I actually never tune my guitar. Most of the time when I tune it to be sure it's still in tune it's still in tune. Should I check if it's in tune before every practice session?
Having it set up is optional, but since I know how to set up my stuff myself, I couldn't live without. A couple of friends started playing guitar with your mindset. Then, they gave me their guitar to set up and they couldn't beleive it (mind you they had shit stock setup). It makes a big difference in playability (effort needed to fret properly) and sound. You can test yourself how good / bad the setup is: touching nothing, the distance between the string and the top of your 12th fret should be around 2mm for the low E (it's very rough, but on a folk, should be in the 2-3mm ballpark). Lower than that, you'll buzz. Higher you have a hard time fretting.
Tunning is part of my warp up routine. Normally you won't move much, but hey, better safe than sorry when you are building your ear.
QuoteThanks for pointing out about Andy's explanation as well. I'll try to do the chords etc how they can be found everywhere else instead of what he's telling everyone. The finger anchoring part is actually helping me out tho. But I've always thought that actually lifting off every finger and then putting them back on in another chord shape would make my muscle memory better for those chords. Should I just lift off all my fingers instead of anchoring?
Both anchoring and lifting are used as techniques. Finger picking/arpeggios style usually anchors, chord strumming not. In the end, you'll learn how to decouple your fingers and see chords as sums of single notes. You can practice both, but for now, try having a good stable chord position. What's in between is step 2.
QuoteI unfortunately don't understand what you mean with the chord progression though "You can transition using --000- as this is part of a G chord and will should fine in this context, while opening up your hand for a full chord change." Do you mean that on lets say the first strum I can strum --000- and 'search' the G chord?
You usually open strum on weak beats, so the 4th, 8th, etc. Never on the first as you want to imprint the "flavour" of the bar you'll be playing on a strong beat. The 1st is the strongest (arguably) for pop music. So you can do G-G-G- open -A-A-A- open etc. Once again, have a look into My Girl from Nirvana. Open strumming is king in transitions.
QuoteI'll be using a metronome next! Is Google's metronome good enough?
You want something that goes "beep" regularly. There are tons of free phone apps too (they also can make different sounds for strong and weak beats, which wil be useful soon enough).
QuoteI'll be trying Nirvana - My Girl, unplugged version soon. I'm curious how that'll go :)
Shit, I meant
About a Girl. It's the easiest song on the Unplugged album. If I remember correctly, it's a simple E-G rotation. The actual feel of the song comes from which notes of the chords you play on which beat, but simply playing the full chords in the right rythm will get you close enough. You can then work on the wierd G chord segmentation once you have the rythm down ;)
The whole Unplugged is probably one of the best thing to learn on an acoustic earlier on btw. Great to practice strumming, single note picking, some easy soloing.
Thanks once again Asdrael!
I'll look into setting my guitar up correctly. If it really makes a difference learning I think it's something I should do.
I often hear people talk about warm up routine. Why is this needed and does it really help?
What do you exactly mean with: "You'll learn how to decouple your fingers and see chords as sums of single notes."?
Playing guitar is essentially comes down to muscle memory. If you learn how to strum and keep time allowing you to alternate strum, and strum missing strokes or adding strokes in between a basic 4/4 pattern by still moving your arm / hand while missing the strings or adding strums you need to do it to the point it becomes second nature. Once this happens you won't even think about it allowing you to concentrate on what your fingers are doing on the feet board.
And once certain chords become part of your muscle memory you won't really have to think about what you're playing while you sing.
Warm up routines for me would involve tuning the guitar by ear with harmonics, then playing a couple of things I like which use all strings bottom to top. If it sounded good I'd know I was in tune ok and by that point I'd made all the right connections between fingers and brain.
For the most part it really is about repetition. Nobody learns at the same rate so it's impossible to tell if something is going to be too difficult or too easy, but Asdrael is right about grunge.. It's probably the easiest place to start.
It's important to warm up your fingers and wrist. You will feel them more nimble if you do, and in the long run, prevent injuries. Also, people often call "warm up exercices" basic warm-up combined with purely technical exercices (like hand coordination, etc). There is plenty of ideas on the net for that. I'd recommend doing it as it gets you in the mood to play and practice songs.
And about the decoupling. For a long time you'll lay down a "Amaj chord", "Dmin chord" etc. At some point, you will realise and learn that an major chord is a combination of a root, a major third, and a perfect fifth. And further down, that you can sub the third for a fourth (for example). And also, moving one finger of a chord can net you a completely different chord - and for that, it's better to work with independent fingers than "blocks". YOu can hear a pretty masterful approach to this in Jason Becker's Air, starting at 1:12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtjOe5e9VFA . Yes, it is only 1 guitar. I can play it... like 70% speed then my fingers tell me to gtfo :P
I'm not saying stuff like that to bother you btw - just encouraging you to get good habits from the start. Bad habits when playing an instrument are easy to acquire, hard to get rid of.
The good thing about warmups like Asdrael has mentioned too, are that you can start playing them very slowly, not worrying about speed just accuracy, then slowly increase the speed over time the more you play. Rhythm is way more important than speed.
Oh and I can't seem to edit my post above on my phone the page never loads when I click save.. 'feet board' lol.. Good predictive text.
Sand,
I'm self taught as well.. and I really never thought I could ever play but now I can pretty much play for hours!!
I highly recommend getting a Loop station.. it really really helped me advanced very quickly. I bought a cheap one when I was learning and now I have a massive Boss Loop Station.
The idea behind the loop station is to create a basic rhythm with some chords..then while your trying to learn a scale (soloing) you can play on top of your own rhythm and so on.
Next thing you know you are your own 2-5 man band ha!
I was only a few years into teaching myself guitar at the time but can give you an example of my loop stuff
https://www.reverbnation.com/unsui ("presence" is good especially if you have some good speakers with bass)
Keep in mind, I DO NOT know how to play a single song on earth, I CAN NOT hear notes.. this is all NOT premeditated and live improve..but due to using the LOOPER and a theory..I can make random songs/sounds.
Basics:
1)Find a set of chords you can play (can be very simple chords)
2)Find out which "KEY" the chord set is.. E-Minor? Major? (I recommend sticking with only 1 scale for a while, I did E-Minor and it works well)
3)Make a simple rhythm with the chords
4)record on looper and let it play over and over
5)Use the e-minor scale to solo along with it (the trick! as long as you are in the right scale, just hit the notes in the right timing anf it will sound good!)
I am by no means a skilled musician..I do know what its like to start from nothing and create music learning a very simple process..so worth sharing.
Awesome to hear that there are more self taught guitar players in this community.
I actually looked at a looper myself as well. Mainly because I love Ed Sheeran's songs and he's always using a loop when performing live. It looks rather easy to make great sounding songs that way. Yet I think the best learning steps are to not use a looper at first. I first want to be able to play songs without a looper. After I can play some songs without a looper I think I'll get a looper and make some songs using that. I might be wrong about the learning steps, but I feel like I shouldn't focus on simplifying stuff at the moment. I want to be able to play songs without any problems.
Not sure if I still want to follow Andy Guitar's tutorials. Asdrael mentioned things that make sense to me. Andy said other things though. What do you guys recommend to learn playing guitar? Search some easy song tutorial on the internet and play that? Keep doing Andy's tutorials or make my own step by step plan?
Your songs sound good BadStar! I like them. Thanks for the tips! :)
I think "simple" is more of a personal preference.. so just try various ways to "learn" and see what works for you!
I tried the same approach "learn a song" and it was hard, it slowed me down and took me much longer to pick up any skills.. but my point is its a individual thing.. so I had to re-adjust and approach learning in a diff way.
Personally, learning a song only cause me to learn a few aspects of one song and I didn't have much gained after..but this is just me. Learning to play random rhythm and such helped me pick up skills and "understanding" quicker.
For example.. Many say you need to learn basic chords and basic songs. That's great, but what about doing a simple rhythm with just single notes? It's very possible and its a quick way to learn how to pick and work on muscle memory..
So, while your learning let's say "chords" E, A, C etc etc.. also just pick the note in a rhythmic fashion... single notes.. EEEEEEEEEE, AAAAAAAA,CCCCCCC,AAAAAAAA repeat. just to start playing! Then add more fingers for chords and so on.
Downfall: I may not have good habits like asdrael mentions lol.. but now that I am more confident, I can revisit some lessons that caused me issue's in the beginning.
I am self taught as well. Started with a book, then basically practiced on tabs. Then Youtube came up, but at that stage I was advanced enough to filter stuff out. I have always used songs to practice techniques. Keeping it musical and fun beats mindless drills anyday.
The good thing with a looper is that you'll hear yourself play. Great way to spot mistakes. But record your loop with a metronome... A lot of guitarist do technique > rhythm > feel as priority, while it should be the opposite.
As for online material, I took a few month at jamplay.com years ago. It was surprised by the quality of the material there. It is not free but was well worth the money. Spend a bit of time finding an instructor you like and roll with it. As far as I could see (like 8 years ago), most of their beginner instructors had a good approach mixing technique and sufficient music theory for it all to make sense. There are sections for a bit of everything, including in depth song analysis. Maybe give it a try and see if it sticks.
Quote from: Asdrael on November 13, 2016, 07:23:58 PM
A lot of guitarist do technique > rhythm > feel as priority, while it should be the opposite.
Great statement!! I feel the same
Wow how did I miss Asdrael's and Fats post above BadStar's? :-X
First of all, I've checked if my guitar was still in tune.. It was way off :-[ Tuned it with guitar tuna on my mobile and it sounds good again :) Not that I really heard that it was tuned wrong though, neither did pay attention to it. I've also checked how far my lowest E string is above the 12th fret. Well, I guess I've got to set up my guitar ASAP! Instead of 2mm it's around 4/5mm. I'm sure if it's around 2mm I get less fingertop pains and easier string sounds.
Quote from: TheFatController on November 13, 2016, 06:11:12 PM
Playing guitar is essentially comes down to muscle memory. If you learn how to strum and keep time allowing you to alternate strum, and strum missing strokes or adding strokes in between a basic 4/4 pattern by still moving your arm / hand while missing the strings or adding strums you need to do it to the point it becomes second nature. Once this happens you won't even think about it allowing you to concentrate on what your fingers are doing on the feet board.
And once certain chords become part of your muscle memory you won't really have to think about what you're playing while you sing.
Warm up routines for me would involve tuning the guitar by ear with harmonics, then playing a couple of things I like which use all strings bottom to top. If it sounded good I'd know I was in tune ok and by that point I'd made all the right connections between fingers and brain.
For the most part it really is about repetition. Nobody learns at the same rate so it's impossible to tell if something is going to be too difficult or too easy, but Asdrael is right about grunge.. It's probably the easiest place to start.
I've got the strumming down now! I tend to play quicker each bar tho, so I gotta work on that. The strumming is automatic tho and I feel like I strum the strings I need to string per chord, except for the G chord. Because I'm now doing this chord sequence; D-A-G-A, I mostly strum the first 4/5 strings without giving fucks about the 6th string for the G chord. When actually playing all 6 strings it sounds wrong, but that's probably just because I'm used to playing it wrong from not playing all 6 strings.
I actually had a lot of fun playing guitar today. But since it's 22.23 pm already and my neighbours might want to sleep I quit. Still played for 30 minutes tho, so that's all right. Felt better than yesterday! :)
Quote from: BadStar on November 13, 2016, 07:11:06 PM
I think "simple" is more of a personal preference.. so just try various ways to "learn" and see what works for you!
I tried the same approach "learn a song" and it was hard, it slowed me down and took me much longer to pick up any skills.. but my point is its a individual thing.. so I had to re-adjust and approach learning in a diff way.
Personally, learning a song only cause me to learn a few aspects of one song and I didn't have much gained after..but this is just me. Learning to play random rhythm and such helped me pick up skills and "understanding" quicker.
For example.. Many say you need to learn basic chords and basic songs. That's great, but what about doing a simple rhythm with just single notes? It's very possible and its a quick way to learn how to pick and work on muscle memory..
So, while your learning let's say "chords" E, A, C etc etc.. also just pick the note in a rhythmic fashion... single notes.. EEEEEEEEEE, AAAAAAAA,CCCCCCC,AAAAAAAA repeat. just to start playing! Then add more fingers for chords and so on.
Downfall: I may not have good habits like asdrael mentions lol.. but now that I am more confident, I can revisit some lessons that caused me issue's in the beginning.
Following easy beginner tutorials on youtube is how I started. I quickly learned that I sucked and that guitar is way more difficult than I thought it'd be! Then I started Andy's tutorials but I didn't had much fun in doing them, so I looked for some easy beginner tutorials again... Didn't work out again. I quit for a couple of months but started a few weeks ago with the approach to now follow Andy's tutorials until I can play all of the things he teaches in the tutorials. Not skipping a single one. I'm stuck at level 3 now tho, but I'm sure that I'll be at level 4 in 1 or 2 weeks :)
Quote from: Asdrael on November 13, 2016, 07:23:58 PM
I am self taught as well. Started with a book, then basically practiced on tabs. Then Youtube came up, but at that stage I was advanced enough to filter stuff out. I have always used songs to practice techniques. Keeping it musical and fun beats mindless drills anyday.
The good thing with a looper is that you'll hear yourself play. Great way to spot mistakes. But record your loop with a metronome... A lot of guitarist do technique > rhythm > feel as priority, while it should be the opposite.
As for online material, I took a few month at jamplay.com years ago. It was surprised by the quality of the material there. It is not free but was well worth the money. Spend a bit of time finding an instructor you like and roll with it. As far as I could see (like 8 years ago), most of their beginner instructors had a good approach mixing technique and sufficient music theory for it all to make sense. There are sections for a bit of everything, including in depth song analysis. Maybe give it a try and see if it sticks.
"technique > rhythm > feel as priority"? What do you exactly mean with feel? I'm sorry I'm such a noob and that I don't know most of the words used to describe things. I'm just a beginner :-[
As I said previously in this post I tend to go faster and faster each bar, especially with a metronome set to 60bmp haha. I've to stay calm though, and just learn how to play every chord right without trying to be fast yet. That's also how people learn to ride dirt bikes. Technique first, speed comes eventually.
Jamplay.com looks cool. I might give it a try :)
Thanks once again for all the help guys! I love this community. I for one hope this game isn't the next Mx Simulator, because I want this community to stay the way it is at the moment.
"feel" is the term people use to make the distinction between robotic playing and actually playing with your heart. It's rather easy to become a good guitar player, it's rather hard getting to a stage where you can say you are playing music on a guitar. Don't worry if it's still a bit "out there" for you, you'll understand what we are talking about once you try a vibrato ;)
Hoh and 4/5mm is not that bad if it's on the low E (the lowest note, so the string at the top when you look down on the guitar in playing position). At least for a folk guitar like yours. I only play electric guitars, and I set my low E to 2mm max, high E at 1mm.
Quote from: Asdrael on November 13, 2016, 10:42:02 PM
"feel" is the term people use to make the distinction between robotic playing and actually playing with your heart. It's rather easy to become a good guitar player, it's rather hard getting to a stage where you can say you are playing music on a guitar. Don't worry if it's still a bit "out there" for you, you'll understand what we are talking about once you try a vibrato ;)
Hoh and 4/5mm is not that bad if it's on the low E (the lowest note, so the string at the top when you look down on the guitar in playing position). At least for a folk guitar like yours. I only play electric guitars, and I set my low E to 2mm max, high E at 1mm.
A vibrato is a guitar playing technique, isn't it?
So 4/5mm isn't bad for an acoustic guitar? The high E string is around 3/4mm. Should I still get it set up?
Yes. It's when you hold a note and move the string around with your fretting finger at the same time.
For the set-up, it's a bit high. I would bring it to a tech and ask for his opinion. It will cost you around 50€, including a pack of strings usually. Do it once, and you shouldn't have to do it again anytime soon. Well worth the money imo.
Quote from: Asdrael on November 13, 2016, 11:18:53 PM
Yes. It's when you hold a note and move the string around with your fretting finger at the same time.
For the set-up, it's a bit high. I would bring it to a tech and ask for his opinion. It will cost you around 50€, including a pack of strings usually. Do it once, and you shouldn't have to do it again anytime soon. Well worth the money imo.
Alright! I'll go to a guitar shop soon.
About the strings. I've seen people choosing some strings over others, but what's the difference?
Quote from: Sandbiter on November 13, 2016, 11:20:45 PMAbout the strings. I've seen people choosing some strings over others, but what's the difference?
Brands: matter of taste (mostly).
Gauge: impacts how tight the strings have to be to be in tune. The higher the gauge, the higher the string tension for the same pitch. Changing gauge can require a re-setup. 11-50 or 11-52 are the usual ones for steel string acoustic guitars.
Quote from: Asdrael on November 14, 2016, 12:21:26 AM
Quote from: Sandbiter on November 13, 2016, 11:20:45 PMAbout the strings. I've seen people choosing some strings over others, but what's the difference?
Brands: matter of taste (mostly).
Gauge: impacts how tight the strings have to be to be in tune. The higher the gauge, the higher the string tension for the same pitch. Changing gauge can require a re-setup. 11-50 or 11-52 are the usual ones for steel string acoustic guitars.
Alright thanks! :)
Sand.. the good news here is that most of us self taught had raging quit moments.. I bought and sold a guitar about 4 times before I finally stuck with it and it paid off!
Just keep trying diff approaches to learning if you are getting frustrated with one. You will win this, I can tell by your skill at track design!
Edit:
I know there are many different styles of teachers..but I still want to say this
Don't feel like you have to do a 5 finger chord perfect from the get go.. nothing at all wrong with power chords or using 3 finger variants while you learn muscle memory and to simply play with a beat/metronome.
My point is, even a single note rhythm IS MUSIC... and it teaches you more either way.
Fav quote
"Guitar's are the easiest to learn and the hardest to master"
The reason this quote stood out to me is the idea that a guitar is played by an individual and they are not designed to be played the same.. so the more you do it your own way, the faster you may learn and become something unique. Learning to play was relatively easy when I look back at it, but man.. I'll never be Mathew Bellamy from Muse!
Haha thanks BadStar! :) I'll keep trying for sure!
Some recorded audio from yesterday. Started with the 8 beat strumming today.
https://clyp.it/1ga3yvji
https://clyp.it/n02pnzmr
https://clyp.it/51pv0pfl
Is it okay to go to the next step? AKA the 8 beat strumming or should I keep practicing this 4 beat strumming until I get it right without any mistakes?
You are making very classical beginner mistakes, but it's good you are posting this.
- First clip:
The chords sound good (thanks for tunning up ;) ). You have two small issues that I think have to do with each other: you are not relaxed and still forcing it. This will come with time.
You can hear that on the 4th beat, as you are going to change hand position, you "pluck" a string giving an out of tune note. This usually comes from pulling your finger too brutally off the string, and given the sound, most likely a bit sideways. When changing chord, relax, get your finger off vertically and a bit slower. And since you stress out and try to go too fast for your current speed level, you lose track of the beat and speed up the transition (you strum on the click the first 4, then a bit before, then clearly before. Listen again).
- Second clip:
More on time, less plucking of a high string when changing chord, but you can hear on the first strum a bit of string muting because you are not perfectly in place and you adjust your fingers for the second strum. It's the inverse problem of the first clip. Bottom line: you are playing a bit too fast for your current skill level. Drop it down 5bpm.
- Third clip:
Overall the best one, but you can hear a mix of the problems of the first two clips. Don't sweat it tho, it's already pretty good and you are good to go to move on to your next step.
From what I could hear, you are at the stage where you start to get it. Just need to practice a tad more your hand synchronization, and never turn off the metronome. You are set to try out more difficult strumming patterns. Good job there!
Quote from: Asdrael on November 14, 2016, 10:05:29 PM
You are making very classical beginner mistakes, but it's good you are posting this.
- First clip:
The chords sound good (thanks for tunning up ;) ). You have two small issues that I think have to do with each other: you are not relaxed and still forcing it. This will come with time.
You can hear that on the 4th beat, as you are going to change hand position, you "pluck" a string giving an out of tune note. This usually comes from pulling your finger too brutally off the string, and given the sound, most likely a bit sideways. When changing chord, relax, get your finger off vertically and a bit slower. And since you stress out and try to go too fast for your current speed level, you lose track of the beat and speed up the transition (you strum on the click the first 4, then a bit before, then clearly before. Listen again).
- Second clip:
More on time, less plucking of a high string when changing chord, but you can hear on the first strum a bit of string muting because you are not perfectly in place and you adjust your fingers for the second strum. It's the inverse problem of the first clip. Bottom line: you are playing a bit too fast for your current skill level. Drop it down 5bpm.
- Third clip:
Overall the best one, but you can hear a mix of the problems of the first two clips. Don't sweat it tho, it's already pretty good and you are good to go to move on to your next step.
From what I could hear, you are at the stage where you start to get it. Just need to practice a tad more your hand synchronization, and never turn off the metronome. You are set to try out more difficult strumming patterns. Good job there!
Thanks a lot once again Asdrael! This is really helpful.
I already knew about going faster and faster each bar, and about not getting my fingers good off the strings. I had no idea how to get them off the strings the right way tho, and I just wanted to learn better chord changes so I didn't give much attention to this problem. I'll pay more attention tomorrow.
I'll try to slow down my strumming. I have to admit that I can't keep up most of the time! haha
Thanks! I really like playing my guitar so far. Sometimes I rage, but overall it's pretty fun. Seeing and hearing progress is really cool.
By the way, I have the most trouble with my G chord. I'm doing the alternative G chord Andy Guitar thaught me on youtube. Most of the time my fingers aren't far enough to the fret, they're more in the middle. This makes me have to press the strings a lot harder and make my fingers hurt. I just can't seem to get it right yet..
(https://s3.postimg.org/xcmacy7pf/IMG_20161113_220541.jpg)
I know, awesome pillow! Just don't know who the rider is.. Any ideas? Chevy trucks rider, looks like number 103 on a Yamaha. I know it's a real rider and not a drawing since I have a poster which is exactly the same.
The alternative? You mean the one with the ring finger 3rd fret on the B string? It works, you just substutite the major 3rd for a fifth. No biggie.
Your finger position is good though. The index is close to where it is supposed to be, the rest could be at least 5mm closer to the fret but it's a good start! The reason is that you will have to push less, so it's 1. less time spent getting in place and moving out and 2. you won't sharpen the note by pushing too hard on the string.
This alternative G chord:
(http://www.andyguitar.co.uk/resources/andy-guitar/public/uploads/images-general/gmajor_noel.jpg)
Normally you don't use your ring finger and just use your pinky on the first string.
Alright thanks! I'll try to move them over a little bit.
Quote from: Asdrael on November 14, 2016, 10:05:29 PM
You can hear that on the 4th beat, as you are going to change hand position, you "pluck" a string giving an out of tune note. This usually comes from pulling your finger too brutally off the string, and given the sound, most likely a bit sideways. When changing chord, relax, get your finger off vertically and a bit slower.
I've known this problem for months already.. Yet I can't figure out why my strings keep making sound when I pull my fingers off. Even when going very slowly, straight and relaxed they ring out. I have sticky fingers and I can't do anything about it. The strings just ring out once I pull my fingers off.
Makes me mad.
F*ck this. I'll throw my guitar into a wall.
My guitar is still alive.
Just had my 25/30 minute practice session of today. Went really well! I had fun again haha
8 beat strumming is going well! In a couple of days time I'll be able to record some stuff again and let you guys hear it! Maybe even tomorrow!
I'm still having problems with the ringing strings when I pull my fingers off.
I also have trouble changing from the A to the G chord.
And when I change to my A chord the highest E string never rings out because I touch it slightly. I've got to pay more attention to that! :)
Still having trouble with the A to G and G to A chord change... Any tips? I place my fingers wrong a lot of times.. Should I just keep practicing until I get it?
Over and over until you get sick of. Then practice it some more. That's what Joe Satriani said.
And to get faster and smoother, you need to get slower first.
Quote from: Asdrael on November 23, 2016, 11:32:56 PM
And to get faster and smoother, you need to get slower first.
Yes.. slow
Remember SLOW is still MUSIC!! Beginner mistakes are the sounds of your songs and naturally so..so embrace them! (but fix them, lol)
You can also do a couple things to remind your self that music is not just MUSE/Nirvana/Incubus.. it can be single notes played in the same rhythm that you are doing D, G, A chord..
Every so often, just play the single string D D D D, G G G G, A A A A and so on the same way you do the chord just to help slow yourself down and remind yourself about timing..this way you don't have a cluster of issues going on at once.. then back to the chords
Also, to help with finger placement, instead of strumming the whole chord.. pick each string in the chord slowly.. this will show you your weak spots instantly but it also sounds amazing.. do this in the right timing ie: switch chords when proper and it will sound great!
Then once you do all that, just do all 3 variations in 1 session just as a reminder that music is what you make of it.. Just name your first song "the sounds of the beginner" lol
Thanks guys. Will do! :)
Wowowow here they play the guitar too? I also love playing the guitar, I've been playing for a few years, so I can help you with some guitar here I am;)
Quote from: Jose Reina on December 23, 2016, 11:28:46 AM
Wowowow here they play the guitar too? I also love playing the guitar, I've been playing for a few years, so I can help you with some guitar here I am;)
Awesome!
I've been playing on and off for a couple of weeks now. Being stuck at one level for a couple of weeks really puts me off. I'm getting tired of playing the same song every time I pick up my guitar.
I think I got this song under my belt decently, so I'll move on. Currently learning Dsus2, Dsus4, Asus2 and Asus4 chords. Well, learning.. they're fairly easy. I'll be playing some Ed Sheeran and Bruno Mars songs soon! I'll be posting some recordings or maybe even videos once I get play some of their songs.
Also thinking about a way to record my guitar play and then use audacity for example to place the recordings 'under each other' so I have some sort of loop station. Not live or anything, but it's still cool to hear it back then!
Would be awesome if I could set something up that my headset mic records something I play if I press 'space' for example and that it'd automaticly add that to audacity and loop it. Anyone got any ideas if that's possible, or perhaps another program on my pc or macbook?
I record with cubase, apart from that when I play at home, I do with the cubase as well, since I have many effects and pluggins of guitar and other instruments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwyU70eS54w
Cool! I'll check it out. ;D
You're good :o
Check out Reaper. Free, and a shitton of plugins are available. I use that.
do u have a link for reaper? the program i found on google costs 60 bucks... only a 60 day demo version was for free?
Hah well, it looks like they changed their business model :/ It used to be free but purchase for commercial use (I think). Still, it's by far the cheapest alternative. If I remember correctly, the license is a one time buy and you'll get all updates too. Well worth the money.
This is a vid from my old band ;D
http://www.youtube.com/v/hNwLXguNUI&list=RD_hNwLXguNUI#t=98
Here are some of my guitars! Been playing 15 years. :D
(https://i.imgsafe.org/0017af3db6.jpg)
(https://i.imgsafe.org/0024313e00.jpg)
Had my first guitar lesson ever after 15 years of being self taught.
The good news is - I'm actually pretty good and we just jammed for an hour.
The bad news is - the teacher wants to push me in unknown territory to make me see music differently. Got one week to learn that piece:
https://youtu.be/NxZ4f4MZMxk?t=9s
As a reference, I play mostly either heavy metal or classical music. FML. (Hopefully I won't look like I'm squeezing a shart out like the guy in the vid).
I'm about to throw my damn guitar into every godd*amn wall I see.
Trying the simplest songs ever and I suck dick. Just can't get it. Been trying for WEEKS, but it just isn't working out. Not progressing a single d*mn bit.
Trying these songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_1250794981&feature=iv&src_vid=TyIzJ1IThdQ&v=HBUrYf7pEKU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKQObIMGQBU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANr4H1wClMM
The first link:
I just can't get consistent good slides, and if I can I'm never able to get my fingers in the correct position for the following chord.
Seconds link:
My mind/muscle connection + speed is lacking.
Third link:
Same as second link. Mind/muscle connection + speed is lacking.
I play almost every day around 10/20 sometimes 30 minutes. I don't have much more time than that. I can say I definitely play guitar AT LEAST 4 times a week. Just trying to play every day, even if it's just 5 minutes.
Having fun while playing guitar is key to learning, I know... I love it, but being stuck on the same d*mn level for WEEKS isn't any fun if you can't even play these easy AF songs.
I'm somewhat decent at the last song I had trouble with.
Patience Grasshopper. You shouldn't expect to quickly overachieve in music. Look for tips and tricks from the pros. Joe Satriani has an exercise that has you hit the same note over and over in different ways until you "own" that note. lol It also teaches you patience in the grueling learning process. Don't ever give up and practice the same songs forever. You're never done learning.
Sandy,
You are overtrying. You will not, as a beginner, nail the second and third song. They require "disconnecting" your left hand fingers which is something that takes time to learn both physically and mentally. The first song (which I find ugly as fuck yeah yeah I went there) has chord slides which are somewhat difficult to have them sound half decent. I would strongly advise dropping those - not only they are frustrating, but you will develop tricks to make them work and that leads to bad habits.
I do not know how you try to learn songs. They are several ways, but as a beginner you have four steps:
- learn the chords, placing your finger and make them ring
- transition one chord to the next, strumming only once
- learn the strumming pattern on a single chord
- mix the strumming pattern with chord transitions.
Obviously, the song gets easier the easier the pattern and the less chords you have. This is why I will forever advise students to learn from the Nirvana Unplugged album when they start out. The first few bars of "About a girl" + the first few bars of "Come as you are" are easy, sound good and teach you two playing styles that you can build on. You can play both very easily (chords + full strumming, or single picking), and progress only on those to more complicated things (accent strumming with string skipping, picking excercices on a pattern, etc).
Hoh and stop listening to Ed Sheeran :p
Thanks guys.
Haven't played in 3 days. Will play again tomorrow. I'll try and keep calm and take a step back.
Okay. I've done like you said Asdrael, and I'm feeling some what decent again. Thanks for the help! :)
Below are a list of songs I can already play (sometimes I still have a couple of errors, but overall they're going very good IMO). Remember, I've been playing for a couple of months almost every day now. I still think I'm learning the wrong way, since it just seems to take longer than it should. But hey, at least I have a tiny tiny bit of progression each month.
Chearleader - IMO
Marry you - Bruno Mars
Don't - Ed Sheeran (just the intro, I don't get the strumming part..)
I'm yours - Jason Mraz (without the slides)
About a girl - Nirvana (first bars)
I've been looking for the next step, but I've seriously no idea what I should do. Start with bar chords? Learn some more songs with the same chords (A, E, D, G, C)? I haven't done much songs with SUS chords, but they don't seem too hard. Anyone recommendations for songs with SUS chords?
Since I'm also learning game development, I'm also starting to get into game story telling and music. I've found some acoustic guitar sessions with incredible relaxing and emotional music. That's one of the things I want to learn really bad. Something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYpLDvBR5Kc
It's hard to know what I should do next. I want to progress, but don't know what my next step should be. Any help is appreciated.
The first few months are brutal :p
Get a teacher? It's a good motivation boost. Just discovered this after almost 20years of strumming ;) I'm playing a completely different genre of music, and since the approach and composition is so different I can take it into my playing. It unlocked a door for me.
Or try to learn a song and play it along with the CD. I really like to force "About a Girl" down peole's throat because the rythm section contains the most important beginner chord shapes, and the solo is just a very simple penta run. I think that was my first music epiphany - Unplugged in NY, About a Girl, play it from beginning to end. Felt like a rock at 16 or so (long hair, and the Unplugged in NY CD has the people clapping at the end too LOL).
Remember tho that you will struggle. And then, something opens up, you "get" something and make great progress for a few weeks and get stuck at a plateau again. It's just the way it goes. You also always have a choice: work on your rythm technique, lead technique, timing, music theory, etc.
Or go the full way and lookup "Steve Vai's 30 hour workout", lose your sanity on it for a few years and come back (yes I did that, and I still use some of this to warmup and work on dexterity).
Quote from: geofanatec on May 28, 2017, 10:33:36 PM
From this point you are better off taking what you learned and "mastering" it and create a variety of your own things with it.
Then when you get good at that go ahead and learn more.
Hint: As you do this you will find yourself learning more naturally on your own which will make progressing further easier.
Create at least 5 songs of your own from what you know, experiment, then move on.
Yes, take what you have learned and start to play around with it..
It's funny bc a friend of mine started the same time as me.. he went the route of learning specific songs and I went the route of doing my own thing..
He can only play 15 or so songs and doesn't seem to have an ability to make his own songs from what he knows..
I can't play a single song from someone else but can play many many of my own..
Try to be somewhere in the middle
Awesome. Thanks again guys!
So what you mean is picking up my guitar and play random chord progressions (obviously has to sound good, but I can figure that out)? Mixing every open chords (the ones I'm most comfortable with) together, get the hardest transitions etc. and just master that?
Just wanna say that I'm enjoying playing again. Just have to take it a little easier.
Quote from: Sandbiter on May 31, 2017, 09:58:46 PM
Awesome. Thanks again guys!
So what you mean is picking up my guitar and play random chord progressions (obviously has to sound good, but I can figure that out)? Mixing every open chords (the ones I'm most comfortable with) together, get the hardest transitions etc. and just master that?
Just wanna say that I'm enjoying playing again. Just have to take it a little easier.
No.. stay simple and don't forget SIMPLE..then you will naturally expand from there..
So, let's say you are learning a specific chord progression A,C,G or whatever at a specific beat..
All, I am saying is strum A/C/G in your own beat/rhythm. Also, switch from A FULL STRUM A/C/G to SINGLE NOTE, A/C/G..then FULL STRUM..then PLUCK EACH STRING OF THE CHORD - A/C/G
The point is, is that the same chord progression can actually sound very different if you just change it up(many diff songs use the same chords) So, in basics if you know 1 chord progression, you can play many diff sounds/rhythms. Rhythm/Timing is important of course, so whatever you do on A, then do on C, then G..and so on.
btw..ACG is just an example. Do what you already know
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I am far from a "good musician" but I do have a really nice way of helping you play music faster.. sadly it requires in-person or video. Since its video or in person only is why I don't mention through text or try to explain it. (but it's an easy, alternative way to learn)
btw..
YOU NEED A LOOPER or SOMETHING CAPABLE OF PLAYING YOUR MUSIC BACK IN REAL TIME!! (instantly)
If you have to stop playing your guitar to make it loop..it's NOT what I am talking about..(foot pedal)
Please trust me on this and message me when you get one. hahah
I've had a few of this over the years on this page(Boss RC-1/Digi-tech/JamMan)..but now I have the ultimate BOSS RC300 ..its amazeballs but any cheaper version will do and it will do you good! lol
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Looper-Effects-Pedals.gc
A few loopers come with drum machine/metronome built in.. you can also download new drum beats and install via USB.
and thats considering the cheaper ones..
my beast mode looper comes with some full bands haha
Here is my band InVerses! Finishing an album and possibly joining the Warped Tour! ;D
https://soundcloud.com/inversesband/afireinside (https://soundcloud.com/inversesband/afireinside)
Quote from: NorCal 986 on May 31, 2017, 11:17:22 PM
Here is my band InVerses! Finishing an album and possibly joining the Warped Tour! ;D
https://soundcloud.com/inversesband/afireinside (https://soundcloud.com/inversesband/afireinside)
I like it!!!!!! ;D
I love the help I get, really helps me a lot!
Trying A/C/G atm. Figuring out different strumming patterns to mix it up and also moving the capo around to change the sound.
What do you mean by 'single note'? I don't really understand that part. I also didn't understand a word from your last sentence about a nice way to help someone learn guitar faster.
I've been looked at some loopers, and i'd love to have one. Does it work with acoustic guitars though? I know it works with electric acoustic, but I have 100% acoustic, nothing electric in it.
Currently I have a metronome app on my smartphone. Sometimes I also use google or some website on the interwebs.
Quote from: NorCal 986 on May 31, 2017, 11:17:22 PM
Here is my band InVerses! Finishing an album and possibly joining the Warped Tour! ;D
https://soundcloud.com/inversesband/afireinside (https://soundcloud.com/inversesband/afireinside)
Sounds good! I like it. 8)
Totally forgot to reply to you Geo!
I definitely will check the video out sometime. Not sure when I'll have the time though, but I'm going to watch it.
Do I have to watch it and try things on my guitar at the same time? Because then it'll take a lot more than 40 mins, at least for me. My old brain can't handle lots of things anymore. ???
Quote from: Sandbiter on June 02, 2017, 10:19:36 PM
I love the help I get, really helps me a lot!
Trying A/C/G atm. Figuring out different strumming patterns to mix it up and also moving the capo around to change the sound.
What do you mean by 'single note'? I don't really understand that part. I also didn't understand a word from your last sentence about a nice way to help someone learn guitar faster.
I've been looked at some loopers, and i'd love to have one. Does it work with acoustic guitars though? I know it works with electric acoustic, but I have 100% acoustic, nothing electric in it.
Currently I have a metronome app on my smartphone. Sometimes I also use google or some website on the interwebs.
Quote from: NorCal 986 on May 31, 2017, 11:17:22 PM
Here is my band InVerses! Finishing an album and possibly joining the Warped Tour! ;D
https://soundcloud.com/inversesband/afireinside (https://soundcloud.com/inversesband/afireinside)
Sounds good! I like it. 8)
Ahh.. I didn't realize you are strictly acoustic. The looper won't work.As far as "a nice way to learn guitar".. I was just saying that I have a way of teaching new players that works really well but requires "in-person" or possible "web camera" if no-lag..but sadly through text messaging, I am unable to do the method.
I got a cheap Hohner acoustic and a cheap Ibanez lol.
I just play acoustic because im too lazy to plug in the amp and all that.
I have .12 gauge strings on my acoustic and play some of my favorite metal songs on it.
Running Ibanez Prestige series, with them super thin necks.. love the shit out of it! play a bit of everything...
https://www.facebook.com/diogo.bull.7/videos/10208703954024422/ <-- having some fun with my gopro, Shark Helmet and an old Danelectro "Cool Cat Drive" pedal i found in my father's garage.. ran into an Orange Amp... actually sounds nicer than i thought!
One of my guitar strings broke.
Any suggestions for a acoustic western dreadnought guitar strings?
Quote from: geofanatec on August 09, 2017, 12:39:52 AM
Personally for me either elixir 80/20 bronze or d'addario ej16-3d phosor bronze
I've no idea how to figure out what strings I want.. I just want to play now haha
I think i'll just go for one of yours. Perhaps Elixir 80/20 bronze. They're a bit cheaper.
I love my new strings, sound great and play great. Gotta get used to them a bit though. They're heavier strings than I used to have.
On the other hand.. I'm stuck again. Not improving a lot, or at all really... Tried some other songs today but they're impossible. I feel like I'm forever stuck with 'I'm yours' from Jason Mraz, and that even without the slides! To be honest my chord changes aren't the best yet on that as well, but I've practiced for months and want to move on now. Looking at how much time I've spent into that, I doubt I'll ever be able to be decent at guitar playing. But I'll keep going and try to make the best out of it.
Been trying to play this one for some weeks as well now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8Bi_-VitS0
The chord changes are so hard.. C to Eminor is easy, but Eminor to G is one I can't get consistently. I always place my finger wrong. Perhaps just not the right muscle memory yet, but it's taking long now! haha
Actually wanted to try this one today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs78H_rWSdU
I got stuck when he explained how the F major chord worked.. I can't hold my finger like that, and I'm 100% sure I can't change those chords quick enough. He even says they're easy chords! My balls easy chords! haha
then I went over to this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=163&v=4DagZbawwqg
Got stuck on the single finger A chord.. That's one, painful af and secondly that's impossible to quickly change to as well.
I might even take back a step again and focus more on my hand position and probably playing with a metronome (fucking hate that thing). Neither have I watched the video Geo linked before. Will do that as well.
To this date I still love playing guitar. I've had some breaks in between, and I've raged quite some times, but I like it.
Any advice is welcome.
Will do. Thanks Geo!
Learning to play using the basics/rudiments is going to benefit all of the songs you try to learn. Learning to play from song tutorials is not a good way. It's like trying to clear a big triple as a way to learn dirtbikes instead of little stuff first.
I... I... sold some stuff... bought some stuff... argghh.
Unjustifiable impulse buy of a new 7 string. The same one I already have, except not refinished and in a near-perfect state. I was planning on selling the "inferior" one but playing the two... I love them both. I sick it's a disease...
I'll post some side-by side pics once I'm done cleaning them up, tomorrow most likely ;)
Ma babies...
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Ibanez 2027xvv (yes two of them). 7 string, mahogany body, maple net, rosewood fretboard, piezzo. luv dem.