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Suggestions from a newb

Started by bassit, April 02, 2016, 06:18:09 PM

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That's great news! (besides being sick)

You didn't come off negative at all man. I am sure PiBoSo appreciated your comments, because they are legit and your experience is sounding very similar to mine. Its a bit of a battle to dial in the settings to work ok for a new rider to sims for sure!

Glad dual brakes helped, it will for sure on mx! Just make sure your front brake is at 100%smooth or you will wash out.
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Hi Poboso, any plan on letting us put Rear brake and clutch on the same button (thats whats ive been riding on MXS for years) ?


Quote from: PiBoSo on April 02, 2016, 10:59:29 PM
Quote from: bassit on April 02, 2016, 06:18:09 PM
Hi there, i will start by saying i only have around 3hrs practice on this sim (beta 4) and have never played any other mx sims, only mxgp on the xbox360.

I have a few suggestions.

1.
Why not include an easier game mode both for the new players and the people that don't want/have the time to put lots of hours in to get good.
Why restrict your sales to only a handful of hardcore players when you have most of what you need already to make this a very popular game/sim (i am not a dev, so i may be very wrong with my assumption), there's no reason that this would spoil the sim aspect if you included settings to setup the for either sim/game.

2.
At install as it stands the settings are not setup for a new player.
I have had to read this forum to find out that it is a bit easier when direct lean is at 100%, i do understand that i have bought into a beta, but again why restrict your sales when a lot of people would just delete the demo after falling off/spinning out the back wheel 100 times in the first 5 minutes of play, please setup the install to have the settings made easier to ride from the off.

3.
Why does the bike have to be moving before i can move my body position ??

4.
Please include some info on what the settings do, again i have had to read this forum to find out information on what each setting does, i didn't find it obvious when changing settings and riding.
Again i know this is a beta and a sim but i feel this will be also be putting off potential new players, it seems to be setup only for the hardcore player.

5.
As a console gamer, i am excited about the possibility of what could be done with this, i was kind of happy with mxgp other than the lack of new tracks, bikes and freedom of movement, all of which have been addressed in this sim.

But at the moment as a newb to this sim, i feel the low speed riding needs some work, maybe an option for a steering damper would help, at the min it is very twitchy at low speeds, it also feels like riding on ice most of the time at low speeds.
I understand this will become easier with practice but at the moment i find it very frustrating and not very realistic at low speeds.

Cheers
Bassit.

Thank you for your suggestions. It is very interesting to read a different point of view.

1. The physics is still in progress. We are working to make it more realistic and hence, hopefully, easier to use. We are also working to improve the helpers, like the automatic shift.
Beta5 will also allow to set front and rear brake on the same input.

2. What default settings do you suggest, in addition to direct lean at 100%? By the way, someone already reported that console games feels like direct lean set to 100%.

3. ???

4. We already planned to add tooltips to all the items of the user interface. However, this task requires a lot of time, so it will probably not be done while the project is still in beta stage of development, so patience is needed in the meantime  :-[
As the purchase page states: "WARNING: MX Bikes is in BETA stage. Please do not purchase it unless you want to actively support development of the simulator."
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April 04, 2016, 08:32:35 PM #17 Last Edit: April 04, 2016, 11:05:46 PM by gdubmx
Quote from: RXR_Banjo on April 04, 2016, 08:06:16 PM
Hi Poboso, any plan on letting us put Rear brake and clutch on the same button (thats whats ive been riding on MXS for years) ?


Quote from: PiBoSo on April 02, 2016, 10:59:29 PM
Quote from: bassit on April 02, 2016, 06:18:09 PM
Hi there, i will start by saying i only have around 3hrs practice on this sim (beta 4) and have never played any other mx sims, only mxgp on the xbox360.

I have a few suggestions.

1.
Why not include an easier game mode both for the new players and the people that don't want/have the time to put lots of hours in to get good.
Why restrict your sales to only a handful of hardcore players when you have most of what you need already to make this a very popular game/sim (i am not a dev, so i may be very wrong with my assumption), there's no reason that this would spoil the sim aspect if you included settings to setup the for either sim/game.

2.
At install as it stands the settings are not setup for a new player.
I have had to read this forum to find out that it is a bit easier when direct lean is at 100%, i do understand that i have bought into a beta, but again why restrict your sales when a lot of people would just delete the demo after falling off/spinning out the back wheel 100 times in the first 5 minutes of play, please setup the install to have the settings made easier to ride from the off.

3.
Why does the bike have to be moving before i can move my body position ??

4.
Please include some info on what the settings do, again i have had to read this forum to find out information on what each setting does, i didn't find it obvious when changing settings and riding.
Again i know this is a beta and a sim but i feel this will be also be putting off potential new players, it seems to be setup only for the hardcore player.

5.
As a console gamer, i am excited about the possibility of what could be done with this, i was kind of happy with mxgp other than the lack of new tracks, bikes and freedom of movement, all of which have been addressed in this sim.

But at the moment as a newb to this sim, i feel the low speed riding needs some work, maybe an option for a steering damper would help, at the min it is very twitchy at low speeds, it also feels like riding on ice most of the time at low speeds.
I understand this will become easier with practice but at the moment i find it very frustrating and not very realistic at low speeds.

Cheers
Bassit.

Thank you for your suggestions. It is very interesting to read a different point of view.

1. The physics is still in progress. We are working to make it more realistic and hence, hopefully, easier to use. We are also working to improve the helpers, like the automatic shift.
Beta5 will also allow to set front and rear brake on the same input.

2. What default settings do you suggest, in addition to direct lean at 100%? By the way, someone already reported that console games feels like direct lean set to 100%.

3. ???

4. We already planned to add tooltips to all the items of the user interface. However, this task requires a lot of time, so it will probably not be done while the project is still in beta stage of development, so patience is needed in the meantime  :-[
As the purchase page states: "WARNING: MX Bikes is in BETA stage. Please do not purchase it unless you want to actively support development of the simulator."

his reply is the 1st answer you've quoted..

perhaps i should try reading properly before commenting!  ::)
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PiBoSo

Quote from: gdubmx on April 04, 2016, 08:32:35 PM
Quote from: RXR_Banjo on April 04, 2016, 08:06:16 PM
Hi Poboso, any plan on letting us put Rear brake and clutch on the same button (thats whats ive been riding on MXS for years) ?

his reply is the 1st answer you've quoted..

The reply is about front and rear brake combined.
He is asking for clutch and rear brake combined... ???

bassit

April 07, 2016, 12:28:18 AM #19 Last Edit: April 07, 2016, 12:31:22 AM by bassit
I figured a had better put up an update on my progress within the sim. ???

I made some adjustments to the xbox360 joypad settings and never looked back.
Lean - 11% dead zone.
Linearity - 94.

I now have a fair few hours in and am now having fun, lots & lots.
I'd say after around 9hrs i made and landed my first whip and it now feels like the excellent sim every one else on here was talking about. :D

Piboso after i had adjusted the linearity down to 94 it didn't feel anywhere near as twitchy/wobbly as before, i will say though that the linearity setting has 100 points of adjustment but only around 8 are of any use, at least on the xbox360 pad (between 92 - 100) it seems overly sensitive, but it did do the job i wanted it too.