Will 'Steam' change the Piboso franchise?

[loinen]

I'll buy a key again to leave a comment and I'll do a give away of my former key most likely. But I think there is a way to activate a steam key with a third party key somewhere... can't for the life of me remember how to tho.

I think there is a way to activate old keys on Steam, so nobody should have to re-purchase. But only keys bought through steam are able to leave reviews.

I have rFactor 2 since beginning (before ISI decided to switch to Steam), once they started their Steam transition, I got my new key from them for activation through Steam, review is allowed. So, I guess, you guys can do the same. The only problem as for me - I don't want to be fully attached to Steam, today Steam exists, tomorrow may not, I don't want to lose games I plan to play during my whole life.

[Snappe]

Oh interesting, they must have changed it. Thanks both for the info!

[BadStar]

Few words about negative opinions on steam or anywhere else. As an active supporter of any quality sim racing project (i own license or even two of all car/bike sims except too old ones) i always try to counter-balance that shitflow from narrow people by adding my comments about good gameplay nuances like physics, content, cool features etc. Maybe someone says it's a waste of time but i think such kind of support might help those projects not to die. We all could watch this type of things actively and do some little work. Same regarding new ppl asking for help or even stupid questions - sometimes they do not receive any answers but answers needed.

I'm with ya brother.. but we are what they tend to call Fan Boy's...

[Asdrael]

The thing is, reviews flocking or not - if the Steam integration of user-made content is good and shows activity, the game will be alive. (I still wish there were a minimum of time played before being able to leave a review but well, Steam sucks and has been the bane of gaming for a long time already. NERDS UNITE!)

[PizzaChet]

I don't want to be fully attached to Steam, today Steam exists, tomorrow may not, I don't want to lose games I plan to play during my whole life.

Steam sucks and has been the bane of gaming for a long time already.

[loinen]

I'm with ya brother.. but we are what they tend to call Fan Boy's...

Yeah, right, but I don't care what they think, I don't even care about changing their opinions. My target is people who need more info to take decision before buying, newbies who never tried games like this - i'm kinda fighting for their interest and more ppl on servers ofc. Even if one or two will come it's already great, big things begin from small ones i had battles with real fanboys stating that mx bikes has awful physics whilst mxsim (or even reflex sometimes haha), as they said, is the most realistic and simply the best. I cant pass this bullshit because I see they didn't try MXB much and I can easily tell what's wrong with their judgement. Sometimes it's not that easy, ppl can be very ignorant, blind, agressive, so you should be patient, just do what you do. For me it's kinda psychological training as well, not a useless action.

[loinen]

Oh interesting, they must have changed it. Thanks both for the info!

BTW more info for you, guys. Useful info hopefully to avoid mistakes when time for Steam will come. In case of rFactor2 going to Steam there was a short period when both standalone and steam-versions were getting updates/support. Then ISI discontinued standalone version. Not sure why but read somewhere that it was hard to keep both versions alive - too much work. Maybe that's because of the sim architecture, it had its own autodownload system for mod and core updates before steam, which probably required too much. Plus, steam version has Steam Workshop feature - once you signed for a mod all updates for that mod to be installed automatically (something similar to our One Stop Sync-Shop for MXB).

[CSchmied986]

Possible solution. Those who currently own the game are given a promo code to download on Steam free? Then just have the game run only through Steam. If thats possible.

[GDUBMX]

I imagine it will be a similar process to iracing or elite dangerous where you login to say this site and choose to convert your version to a steam version and simply get a steam key. So you start at zero hours on steam. Would be cool if Piboso opted in to the private beta program on steam where we get keys now and he pushed builds and fixes through that. But let's be realistic here guys, it's gonna be years away yet I imagine. If he decided to release now as an early access  and people had to wait a 6 months to a year for each update the game would be raped and his reputation from the steamtards will be tarnished and those dreaded reviews and refunds will flood.

This is why I requested a roadmap, I wanna see some milestones and possible time slots/deadlines of certain goals etc. I guess this is unlike other Devs who do this though as they all have 1 game they concentrate on.

Please Snappe can you do us all a favour and let us know realistically when you picture mx bikes to be completed? We have been in the beta program for 3 years now. What with the competition coming up with mxgp 3 and supercross 2018 by milestone Hahah that was a joke... But yeah it would be nice. Thanks mate.

[Snappe]

Please Snappe can you do us all a favour and let us know realistically when you picture mx bikes to be completed? We have been in the beta program for 3 years now.

By completed do you mean when we stop working on it and start on MXB2?

[GDUBMX]

Please Snappe can you do us all a favour and let us know realistically when you picture mx bikes to be completed? We have been in the beta program for 3 years now.

By completed do you mean when we stop working on it?

i mean when its on steam and out of beta

[BadStar]

Like I said, I am with ya Loinen and fully agree.

I also am an actual Fan Boy so it doesn't hurt my feelings.. I mean, aren't we all fans of this game like madmen?



ALl in all, steam would be great for the funds, workshop and updating abilities it brings!

[Mace-x]

Please Snappe can you do us all a favour and let us know realistically when you picture mx bikes to be completed? We have been in the beta program for 3 years now.

By completed do you mean when we stop working on itand start on MXB2?

i mean when its on steam and out of beta

Wait wait, let the man speak.... 

Sooo... this mxb2 you´re talking about 

[GDUBMX]

haha i didnt see that he added that after..

[pacopastor34]

In my humble opinion beta status is not a problem ATM,  there are several games in early access with thousands of players or even with dlcs!!! Let's keep working guys, I'm not an expert and I hope don't sound rude but maybe your website is not the best to sell anything. If I would developed a game as good as MXB/GPB... I would spend a bit more time in marketing. I mean, with due respect you should try to catch more players  and sell your games better. There are social media, events, contacts, GOOGLE!, and the fucking mothership STEAM, I don't know if you have salesman/marketer in the team but you need it.

I hope you to release all games in steam and cover you in gold, or at least to have enough money to keep what you love!

Thank you for your work pibosoTeam!