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Cbmx 250

Started by Big floyd, April 18, 2021, 11:16:15 PM

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otisjordan

Although the (ripped) models look quite good except for the usual milestone stuff like exhausts and footpegs, these ride absolutely horrible.
Engine mapping is extremely linear and the same for all of them(except for the 09 yamaha and 21 honda, these have a lower limiter, but the same engn file), and the suspension sucks, blows through like an old pogo stick.

I also don't condone ripping models from milestone games, just use the OEM modpack, the bikes are a lot better, especially the suspension, and the guys put a lot of work into it.

KL4U55

April 20, 2021, 01:59:22 PM #2 Last Edit: April 21, 2021, 02:18:43 PM by Motoqueiro Fantasma
Quote from: otisjordan on April 19, 2021, 05:24:13 PMAlthough the (ripped) models look quite good except for the usual milestone stuff like exhausts and footpegs, these ride absolutely horrible.
Engine mapping is extremely linear and the same for all of them(except for the 09 yamaha and 21 honda, these have a lower limiter, but the same engn file), and the suspension sucks, blows through like an old pogo stick.

I also don't condone ripping models from milestone games, just use the OEM modpack, the bikes are a lot better, especially the suspension, and the guys put a lot of work into it.

Quite rude critics, huh?!
First of all, these bikes are not public and is developed for E-SPORT format (thats why engn files are open to edit and the same values, bikes intentionally are equal at power to put riders at same condition at track, no engine map tricks or unbalanced power)
Second one, bikes aren't intended to ride as OEM ones, so suspensions/weight/torque/inertia and any other value are homologated to work differently, every rider rides different so MUST do tuning.
Third one, this pack is developed within best Brazilian riders to test it, we use this pack more than an year at CBMXon National Competitions and every inch of why bike is like this, is because was more than 500 hours of pure developing in LIVE races, not related to data in real life, but at sensation of ride a powerful and competitive bike ingame as AMA/MXGP do homologates, none of them are replica, totally way out OEM bikes strive for. (see by CRF 2021 250 as example.)

So you may imagine,what is the objective of those bikes?
First: Give riders same power and realistic riding difficulty to compete with each other in-track independently which bike chooses.
Second: Not depend of when OEM pack changes, most of updates is done by community CBMXon so when game updates we got bikes ready for the next race weekend.
Third: Creates an alternative for riders which wants something fair, competitive and beware an amount of problems in OEM still needs to solve(As bikes holes in the ground when falls, overweight in ram/processor when game is an online race with 20 riders or more, uncontrollable wobbly handling inside curves at determined worn terrains, Enormous power difference between bikes at same category, Online bike mass contact exaggerated when bike-to-bike,etc...)

If you got a problem with CBMXon Bikes, don't download them. SIMPLE :)
Of course there's issues about bike skinning (Cut-outs and .psd are in progress)
PS:Yes, i do part of the physics and just could do it because Pay2021 and other bikes we did got open files to learn how-to, if i depend to learn with OEM couldn't.

Big Floyd, don't share the link here. If someone wants to ride it, will go to CBMXon Discord and find it within our rules, ok?!

Please guys understand it is not a war, some things could not be learned with encrypt files and developing is beyond who is right or wrong in this game, if you judge 3d of CBMXon bikes, then judge 3d of objects in track of MXGP stages we got here, helmets and boots converted from other games by same guys whom does OEM PACK.

There's a ton of work behind it, they are credited at .txt file inside .zip file and at original post from Discord, we would not made it such great without them.

This is about developing, not political view of the business.
Hope it helps to answer some questions that stays in-air everytime CBMXon pack comes as thread here.

PizzaChet

Quote from: otisjordan on April 19, 2021, 05:24:13 PM...these ride absolutely horrible.
...the suspension sucks...

Quote from: Motoqueiro Fantasma on April 20, 2021, 01:59:22 PMQuite rude critics, huh?!
Welcome to the 12-25yr old demographic! Where pre-pubescent kids think they're entitled to have any opinion, despite their ignorance. They also tend to not try to do anything themselves, like make their own skins, gear or tracks and give up after two hours of trying just to pretty much demand that they set the terms when an experienced creator is needed do it. Good luck!
Quote from: YodaIf no mistake have you made, yet losing you are ... a different game you should play.

KL4U55

Quote from: PizzaChet on April 20, 2021, 05:34:47 PMWelcome to the 12-25yr old demographic! Where pre-pubescent kids think they're entitled to have any opinion, despite their ignorance. They also tend to not try to do anything themselves, like make their own skins, gear or tracks and give up after two hours of trying just to pretty much demand that they set the terms when an experienced creator is needed do it. Good luck!



Exactly, few people have force to develop something different to community, we worked together to put every little aspect working at championship we manage, bikes, tracks to develop rider in-track. Thank you by the good spirit! ;)