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Started by ZeroCivilian, June 28, 2019, 07:58:41 am

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ZeroCivilian

Is this game better than MX Simulator in your guy's opinion? I downloaded the demo and I'm alright at MX Simulator but it didn't feel very realistic to me. Someone on Reddit on an older thread suggested to check out this game. I know that MX Simulator's demo is really out dated, so If anybody owns MX Simulator is it better or worse than this? This game caught my eye more because of the graphics and I hoping the physics will keep me satisfied. Downloading the demo right now.
PS: This community also looks a lot better than MX Simulator's. Hoping no one is as toxic as the people who play that.

Asdrael

Well opinions are opinions but:
- in terms of physics I would say MXB > MXS in their current state, knowing that you will have to sink quite a bit of time into the games before you can do a lap reliably, yet alone a quick one
- for custom content accuracy MXB > MXS (but MXS track creation is way easier)
- MXS > MXB for the amount of content
- MXS > MXB for online activity (for a lot of reasons)

Try the demos and see what you like. Anyone telling you MXS is the pinacle of realistic physics has never ridden a dirt bike. Anyone telling you MXB has a smooth online experience today is full of poopoo ;) But both are very enjoyable experience in their own right.
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ZeroCivilian

Thank you for the reply. After playing both demos I definitely think MXB is better. Though I've never tried the full version of MXS after playing the demo of MXB I'm positive it wouldn't be better. I am going to purchase the full version of MXB soon. Hopefull beta 11 comes out before than so the multiplayer will be better, but I need a lot of practice anyways. I've probably played the demo for 5 hours now and a couple of those were totally not spent trying to wheelie.

Ruubs

June 28, 2019, 04:07:26 pm #3 Last Edit: June 28, 2019, 04:14:41 pm by Sandbiter
Mx Sim is better for Axel Hodges type sh*t. Full throttle blowing through a berm and doing insanely big jumps.
Mx Bikes on the other hand is a lot more realistic. I'm not saying you can't full throttle blow through berms and do big jumps though. It's possible, just not as forgiving and straight forward to do.

Both games are great, but if you're really going for a simulator, choose Mx Bikes. Mx Simulator is more fun for the big 'stupid' stuff.

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This pretty much sums up Mx Sim.

ZeroCivilian

After playing both I totally agree with you. Within 30 minutes in MX sim I was able to blow through all of the jumps at the maximum speed possible. After about 7 hours of game play with MX Bikes some jumps are still hard for me to complete, especially the ones that don't have a straight section leading into them. When watching the video you put there it looks like the they are playing in moon gravity, the bikes in MX Sim have no weight at all.

PizzaChet

How come none of the tracks for MXB have braking or acceleration bumps or whoops that actually resemble whoops? Instability. That is also something MXS does way more realistically. MXB is far more modern in certain features yet MXS has nailed down some of the key things for realism. Both have quite a way to go sound-wise.
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Ruubs

Quote from: PizzaChet on August 12, 2019, 10:54:56 pmHow come none of the tracks for MXB have braking or acceleration bumps or whoops that actually resemble whoops? Instability. That is also something MXS does way more realistically. MXB is far more modern in certain features yet MXS has nailed down some of the key things for realism. Both have quite a way to go sound-wise.
The first dozen tracks which were released for Mx Sim didn't have any roughness what so ever. As more people got the game and started to get better, rougher tracks were made.

MX Bikes still doesn't have a big community and half of the people playing now can't even get a clean lap in on flat tracks due to their lack of practice.

Mx Sim is more fun in certain ways, but a lot more arcade-like. I do have to admit that it is more stable on bumps etc. but that does not mean it is impossible in MXB.

ChaosFox

I see this topic is kinda old but I really wanted to voice my opinion on it coming from my experience.

Hello, I'm Chaos, and I love MX Bikes. But that said i should say i have been playing MX Simulator for 8 years now. MXS was so ugly when i was 12 (I'm 20 now). This topic hits me different because being an avid player of 8 years you'd think i was a legend or veteran at this time. I am very well not. MXS requires your full attention every day, for hours that day. It's ridiculous. The physics for 2007 were phenomenal. The whips, the friction in the dirt. Then they gave us dirt kicking up, and decals. It was awesome stuff. The game is hard yes, but when you get good, it's a great feeling. But you goto a friends house over the weekend? Then maybe do some work? Then go on vacation? Now you suck at the game. The top dogs do nothing BUT play that game... I hate to say it.. Because 8 years is alot for a game, but it's outdated. The whole game is. It's a masterpiece that one man created the whole thing, but it's just outdated. The graphics, the physics, everything. The engine is old. FFS, jlv refuses to create sound mods, the bikes sound like something created in a mixer. MX Bikes? New, fresh, REAL. The tail of the bikes getting kicked by braking bumps, the whoops hop, the whips, the way the bars spit and stutter on rough terrain. The literal raw feeling when riding a bike, seeing it move out from beneath you when throwing it sideways. It's just time for change. MXS doesn't even have body leaning. Show me someone who rides irl without weighting the outside peg? MXS is great, if it's 2013 and you're looking for a killer sim in it's prime, but MX Bikes will give you a better online experience, and a good ride. Easy modding, the good stuff. And to hell with Spencer Turley for literally saying "You all just like MX Bikes because you can hop on and ride and feel like somebody because the game is easy." No sir. This game is not easy to just start playing and do a lap. It has a great learning curve, and he is just a sad, mad little man because you don't have to sit in a room for 4 days with a shit bucket grinding the game to get good. You don't have to be fast to be good.

But what do I know, alot of people with agree with this, and alot will disagree.

Kekkoo

One of the hardest things when moving from MX sim to MX bikes is the camera. In MX sim you really know what the bike is doing at all times because the camera is rigid and attached to the rider. In MX bikes it is really difficult to tell when you are on the limit of the grip. Suddenly you just lose the front end. Also leaning very fast from one side to another causes weird crashes because you can't feel the bike. Of course I'm playing in 1st person as a simulator should be played. This might not be as big of a difference for 3rd person players. In 3rd person I can't play MX sim or MX bikes at all. It just feels wrong. When landing a jump in MX sim the bike goes where the front wheel is pointed but in MX bikes it feels the bike might go where ever it wants to if the bike is even little bit sideways. MX sim definitely has a better 1st person camera and damping forces on steering. Also whoops on MX bikes feel wrong. You just pin it and the bike stays nice and straight.

Definitely I'm little biased towards MX sim and some of the things will get better when I play MX bikes more. But sometimes I see people commenting that MX bikes is way more realistic than MX sim and that is false. MX bikes has some serious flaws as does MX sim. It's healthy to have multiple games competing in the same genre. Too bad JLV has almost stopped developing MX sim.

teeds

Quote from: Kekkoo on February 22, 2020, 12:28:39 pmBut sometimes I see people commenting that MX bikes is way more realistic than MX sim and that is false.

I don't think anyone that's really got into MXBikes would agree that's a "false" comment. I see lots of people commenting that MXS is more realistic but it all seems to be based on nothing but subjective bias, example above  :)
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