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Basically what we have is compromise to make the game playable, and I think it works pretty well. There's no way with a controller of any sort we can ride like IRL and control all the aspects of a real rider and bike in real time.

yeah just think I fundamentally disagree on the compromise.

Yeah like I said in situations it happens but MAJORITY of your time spent riding will be spent perp with bike. This is where you have most control.

He looks awkard/shifting balance there aswell imo, I doubt he continued that angle throughout the turn.

So what you guys are all basically saying is that the 'direct' leaning (Left thumbstick) and turning the bars are permanently linked to one input. Which is the left thumbstick. You cannot turn the bars without 'direct leaning'. Why does 'direct lean' affect the way the handlebars turn in the first place? I mean its possible to lean and not turn the bars irl lol..
 
Why not combine/link the 'direct lean' and 'rider lean' and leave the bars seperate? It feels overly complicated for the sake of having 2 separately controlled leans. When in reality you'll find yourself doing 'direct leaning' and 'rider leaning' in sync already?

When you ride you're supposed to try to stay on top of the bike at all times. (excluding whips/scrubs) If I lean the bike over, I stay perpendicular to the bike/bars. I very rarely find myself leaning the bike left while leaning myself to the right side of the bike, and when I do, it is not the fast/ideal line, and used when I've already made a mistake of some kind.

Again thanks for the replies, spent another couple hours trying to get used to it, but yeah feels like trash steering/leaning left and seeing the bars turn right. Ruins the flow of whips, bars look flinchy af as I spam l/r just to see where the fuck my bars are turning, cant stand this shit lol. I thought as a sim this game would have actual free mid air physics, sucks that even this doesn't.

I love dirt bikes though so I'm glad to at least support the game with a purchase. Hope yall have fun

Appreciate the reply man, good to know its at least normal and not something I messed up with in the settings.

Although I don't quite understand why its like this/why anybody accepts this lol. It seems overly complicated for no apparent reason. I don't want to argue semantics on forum though

I have 20 hours+ into the game now, still does not make sense and feels straight up weird, I'm just going to move on lol, its kinda fun running laps/whips, ppl are cool online etc, but it feels and looks flinchy/unrealistic tbh, expected more out of a 'sim'   

 

Not sure if this is a bug or what.

When the front wheel has contact with the ground it steers l/r in accordance with the left joystick.

When air born or even doing the slightest wheelie this flips. So steering LEFT on the joystick causes the handlebars to turn RIGHT.

I'm constantly whipping/steering to where I dont wish to go, I'm trying to land with the SLIGHTEST bar turn and whoops I turned right instead of left. Even while trying to accelerate with a slight lean out of a corner the front wheel pops up, instantly leans/turns in the opposite direction and steers you off track.

Is this part of the 'normal' physics of this game? Is there any setting to change this?